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PC vs. Console
« on: March 03, 2009, 08:20:30 AM »
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I hate PC gaming.  I think that's all the argument I need.  However, I can see how people who just play games all the time, have no life, and therefore plenty of extra cash & time to waste on new hardware and getting it to work, would like PC games.  Some kind of status thing - "ooh, look I can install drivers and resolve IRQ conflicts!  I'm a clever fanboy!"  All so that you get some better shading or some bullshit like that.  Well, you know what?  GTA was fun even when it had 2-D birds-eye view graphics.  Yeah, the graphics are really impressive now and the reality of the blood splatter when you beat up a prostitute is breath-taking, but those are just the little details.  It's not enough to jizz all over a brand new multi-thousand dollar gaming PC, or worth it enough to set up a white box that's just going be a whole lot of hassle. 

In other words, I can't be bothered, I don't know how to do it, I can't afford it and it annoys me that any of you can.

 Superman, the federation of resentful anti-PC part-time console gamers welcomes you.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 09:29:39 AM »
It's not about better graphics.  It's about using the investment I already made.  I already shelled out $800 to check my email, do work, look at porn, play with photoshop, store my pictures, look at porn, listen to music, etc...  I might as well play my games there too.  Why shell out another few hundred to play the handful of games I want to play?

It was a great choice with Fallout 3.  I heard that Rockstar had always done quality PC ports, so I expected the same with GTA IV.  I guess I just have to wait patiently for my patch and do better research in the future.

If I had a bigger budget and more time to play more games, a current generation dedicated machine would make sense.

I love my PS2, GBA, N64, and NES, but I bought all of them after they had become relics and before they became antiques.  I don't love any of them enough to pay what they cost when they were new.

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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 15:15:10 PM »
I've always waited until the consoles have come down in price before purchasing them
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 15:18:24 PM »
But see, it's not a bad idea to buy a console once the price has gone down.  In fact, old school consoles are something to treasure.  I don't have that same affection for PCs.  If it's not running Windows 3.11 then the nostalgia factor doesn't happen for me.  PCs age so quickly, but I'm happy to still use a 4 year old console, no problems. 

Besides, now they usually double as DVD players, which makes it a reasonable investment.

And then I wasn't totally serious about arguing against PC gaming.  I just don't like it.  It doesn't suit me.  Other people can have at it, but I won't think highly of them because they're not conforming to my preferences, damn it.

I think the only PC games I enjoy are really super old things that I like to run off Dosbox, like Leisure Suit Larry I. 
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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 15:55:45 PM »
Browser based games are always good too.  Mmm, Newgrounds.

I don't know.  I used my computer for 7 years without many problems.  I could still play a lot of game until the last couple years.

I think for me it depends on the game.  I'm not going to play an RTS on a console, and I'm not going to play an FPS on my PC.  Though my brother lent me his PC controller, so I guess that makes my PC more versatile.  I won't be upgrading for another 7 years so in around 5 years from now I'll probably buy whatever the second class console is at the time.

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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 09:35:48 AM »
I still have my Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US) and Sega Master System!!  :handsup:

I could even set them up without much trouble and play Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap again. I still remember the final password save. After nearly 20 years.
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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 22:58:24 PM »
Pah consoles! Mubble Mubble Spectrum Mubble Mubble C64, Mubble Mubble Amiga! Mumble Mumble PC Mumble Mumble. ;)

I loved PC gaming. I've been doing it since the mid 90s. Before that I gamed on the above mentioned computers. Never consoles. I was always hardcore about it. And naturally disrespectful of those Sonic playing console owners.  :P I have built gaming rigs that cost over £2000 and have been obsolete by the time I got the parts and put them together. I have played Oblivion on full settings and had Crysis running on full detail settings with almost playable frame-rates. ;) I've used hacked/modded graphics drivers to get extra umph out of my PC. I've owned a physics accelerator and over-clocked to the point I have had to open my window in Winter to keep the room cool. I've done water cooling and even tried pelter cooling. Before you could buy easy to install kits too I might add. Hacks, mods, maps, skins and the like were my life. I even had Windows games running under Linux, badly I might add. Talking of the original GTA I had the patch to the original GTA to use my 3D graphics accelerator to do the 2D graphics. It was too fast to play if anyone is interested. :) I was the PC gamer stereotype come to life.

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Don't spread it around but I used to play WoW on a Mac. Shhh. ;)

Its not a hobby for everyone. Even casual PC gaming has become a lesson in futility. Want to play Fallout 3 on a 64bit install of Windows on 4 core CPU? You will need to turn off 2 of the cores if you don't want to crash at random. What normal person would even bother looking into fixing that let alone actually do it. You have to have a passion for computers as well as gaming. I'm all about computers. Always have been, as my computer list above no doubt illustrates.

But not any more, I'm done. And I think GTA IV was partly to blame. Trying to get that working on my PC after playing it on the Xbox 360 was a nightmare. I decided there was no point, I could just be playing the 360 version. So many games are Steam (or similar) powered so I cannot sell them on or part exchange them. Then came the month of 'Blue-screens for no apparent reason' and I decided "I'm too old for this shit!" I just want to play the games. Not to mention it is an insanely expensive hobby if you get into it. As much as I would love to blow my salary on a Multi-core quad SLI system I can't afford it any more.

My PC now mainly runs Linux (though it dual boots into Windows 7 and has 2 250mm case fans that glow blue) and my gaming is mostly confined to consoles. The benefits of the Keyboard+Mouse over a controller no longer really bother me. The occasional game I get on the PC over the consoles because the experience is just sometimes that little bit better e.g. Fallout 3. But even that is coming to an end. I got the 360 version of Dragon Age over the PC one and I am not going to get the PC despite considering it. My first gaming console was a PS2 and only when it had been out a couple of years. Since then I have owned every major console that has come out, even the Nintendo ones. I usually get them all and find out which is most suited to me and sell of the others. At the moment I have a Xbox 360.

The only gaming reasons I see to prefer a PC are for MMO and RTS games. PC gaming is in my opinion slowly self-destructing in the face on a vastly improved console gaming experience. I think the like of WoW and AoC are all that are keeping PC gaming going. That and mad young men with disposable income and no responsibilities.

For the record the original GTA games are nowhere near as much fun as the 3D versions.
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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 04:17:30 AM »
After reading all your specs and accomplishments, I was going to ask about fucking GTA IV, but you beat me to it.

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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 05:00:10 AM »

I think the only PC games I enjoy are really super old things that I like to run off Dosbox, like Leisure Suit Larry I. 

Leisure Suit Larry III: Passionate Patti was my favorite.   :handsup:

I don't play a lot of games, so I've never owned a console.  I have a Nintendo DS Lite for Animal Crossing but only because that game isn't available for the PC. 
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Re: PC vs. Console
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 09:38:38 AM »
Even casual PC gaming has become a lesson in futility.
Exacto-fucking-lutely. My main complaint about PCs has always been lack of accessibility. You need a serious interest/patience/degree just to make sure your system is the way you want it. Obsolescence is another story altogether.


I think the only PC games I enjoy are really super old things that I like to run off Dosbox, like Leisure Suit Larry I. 
Oh jizz, yes, wetness. I play more on DOSbox than I do Vista-compatible games. Master Of Magic, Dune 2 (precursor to Command&Conquer), Elite II: Frontier, Machiavelli the Prince, Genghis Khan II: Clan of the Grey Wolf.


Actually, I would give an arm and a leg to get Master Of Orion 2 again. My brother lost the game CD years ago and Atari won't let me buy it cuz I'm in Australia. Wankers.
LOL @ Pam... if I had $20 for every time someone used that word with me... well....

I'd probably have like $60

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 20:51:56 PM »
Elite II: Frontier

Oh god I still have nightmares about playing Frontier. I say playing but on release it was the most bug ridden game every released. Some serious "Jet Set Willy" type bugs that you had to wait for next months PC Format to get the patch so you could play it.

There is an Elite clone with shiny new proper 3D graphics but I can't remember the site's URL. It looks awesome but I haven't had chance to try it yet.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 21:25:07 PM »
Elite II: Frontier

Oh god I still have nightmares about playing Frontier. I say playing but on release it was the most bug ridden game every released. Some serious "Jet Set Willy" type bugs that you had to wait for next months PC Format to get the patch so you could play it.

There is an Elite clone with shiny new proper 3D graphics but I can't remember the site's URL. It looks awesome but I haven't had chance to try it yet.
The Frontier I play is bug-free. Is the clone an actual copy of Frontier but with new fandangled graphics? Or are you talking about X: Beyond The Frontier?
LOL @ Pam... if I had $20 for every time someone used that word with me... well....

I'd probably have like $60

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2009, 01:10:29 AM »
The Frontier I play is bug-free. Is the clone an actual copy of Frontier but with new fandangled graphics? Or are you talking about X: Beyond The Frontier?

Oh I am sure it is now after 17 years of debugging. :) Even one of the pieces of software I have written would be bug free after that long, maybe.

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2009, 09:25:42 AM »
Ahhh here is it is Oolite.
Wow. The custom shader support makes it look way awesome. The best part about Frontier is the realistic galaxies. You actually jump from place to place in OUR galaxy. X:BTF only has two-way jump gates so it can be very annoying to travel...
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LOL @ Pam... if I had $20 for every time someone used that word with me... well....

I'd probably have like $60