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Anshe Chung
« on: May 25, 2010, 10:01:40 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshe_Chung

Wow, I think my mind has been blown a little
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 05:04:57 AM »
That's just amazing.

I'm really intrigued on the concept of real world implications of virtual worlds.  I remember reading an article about WoW putting up some special item for sale for like $25.  Not a real thing, just a bunch of pixels and a bit of coding.  They sold like hundreds of thousands of them.  I mean, you have to put in a pretty big investment to create the environment for that kind of demand, but damn that's some quick and easy money at this point.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 14:12:45 PM »
My youngest brother in law gets calls at 2am from China about people wanting to buy his gold. He makes a decent income from it, and character selling, although I have no idea how exactly or what he's doing on WoW
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 17:04:05 PM »
We had RMTs in FFXI. Considering the game economy and that 1 mil in game, depending on the server, is about 40USD (and 1 mil won't get you anything), you can do very well by selling it. However, it makes the gaming experience terrible because it: 1) drives the economy up, 2) causes the RMTs to auto-claim rare item-replete monsters and to farm areas that players might profit from or even camp in, and 3) makes it difficult for everyone else to make "honest" game money by crafting and farming.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 17:58:02 PM »
I love how in real life Super whines about how the rich keep getting richer, and is the champion of the poor, in cyberspace Pam is his alter ego. Win win win.
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 18:24:39 PM »
I hate to be the usual voice of cynicism, but why are we happy about people making money off things that are absurdly unproductive to society?

Sure, I do a lot of things with my time that don't really matter to anyone, even me, but I don't get paid for it.  Except for right now.  Shut up.
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 19:29:17 PM »
If someone wants it, they will pay for it. Simple economics.
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 03:48:50 AM »
I hate to be the usual voice of cynicism, but why are we happy about people making money off things that are absurdly unproductive to society?

I don't know that I'm happy about it.  I'm just fascinated by the whole thing.  It's so much different than anything that has happened in human history.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 16:49:41 PM »
I hate to be the usual voice of cynicism, but why are we happy about people making money off things that are absurdly unproductive to society?

I don't know that I'm happy about it.  I'm just fascinated by the whole thing.  It's so much different than anything that has happened in human history.
Maybe it has.  Maybe it's what really happened to the Aztecs.
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2010, 19:05:49 PM »
You're both wrong. This is just another concept of money. Money is an intangible thing that we gain no pleasure out of to give us things that gain pleasure (or food). In this case, a level 409 sword of damages makes me happy, as I can rape people with it, or a house in the virtual hamptons. My cyber friends will be SO JEALOUS!

As such, if I can't gain happiness from the real, I can gain it from the virtual. Ergo, I spend real money to gain real happiness.

Now... on to the stock market...
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 03:37:05 AM »
Sort of, I guess.  Isn't it once more removed?  Money in a abstract concept that's (originally and ideally) attached to a real thing.  Even the stock market is just an abstract way of selling pieces of a real thing.  This is taking the abstract concept of money and using it to buy and sell abstract concepts in a virtual world.  It's all very out there.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 09:55:49 AM »
Value in anything, whether it has practical "real world" value or not, does tend to make people happier if for no other reason than it boosts their egos. Why else would people play Monopoly?

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 15:36:39 PM »
Monopoly, theres another little game. We had Monopoly, everybody had it.

No one like it, even if you thinked you liked the game you didn't.

And it's simple why, ok.

Cause this is anyone here 2 and a half hours into a game of Monopoly,
ready?...

*Booush* "FUCK THIS GAME! It's 4 in the morning grandma, YOU WIN!
I'm sittin on Baltic with crap! I'm paying luxury tax out the ass!
And I hate when your the banker,
where did you get the pink 50's? you cheating whore!
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"Don't fucking touch me grandpa, NANA is a cheating whore!
I should cut you head off with this little doggy!"...


We were so poor growing up, we had to use that iron.
We had to actually use that little iron. It's not funny.
It takes a long time to iron a shirt with that little iron...
"Mmmmm..ooo *sizzle*... oh *sizzle* shit hot"...
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 10:52:38 AM »
I love Monopoly.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2010, 11:24:43 AM »
That just reminds me of the guy in Ken Park playing Scrabble with his grandparents and losing it.  And then he wanks to the tennis. 
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 06:26:07 AM »
There are better games.

Did you hear about that new version, that has credit cards instead of cash?
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 07:45:24 AM »
one of these days I will hack that system, since they removed the possibility of me holding up the bank with a nerf gun.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 10:03:08 AM »
....you hold up the bank in monopoly? GENIUS!
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2010, 08:23:23 AM »
The other side.

Quote from: BBC
Finnish police are investigating up to 400 cases of theft, with some members reporting the loss of up to €1000 (£840) worth of virtual furniture and other items, according to Detective Sergeant Marko Levonen.

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In the past, the theft of virtual goods has even given rise to serious physical harm in the real world. In 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Shanghai gamer Qiu Chengwei killed player Zhu Caoyuan when he discovered he had sold a "dragon sabre" he had been loaned.

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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 12:44:23 PM »
Oh great.  Now it requires real life police resources to protect virtual property. Fuck.
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Re: Anshe Chung
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 19:00:15 PM »
...a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game...

OMG OMG OMG OMG
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