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Title: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 09, 2009, 12:38:55 PM
This is pretty much my dream game.

It's a sandbox game.  Basically it's like a giant room with access to infinite life-sized lego blocks.

Lanky and/or Kibble, will you please tell me how to set up a Lankyland server for this?

http://www.minecraft.net/
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Captain Kibble on December 09, 2009, 23:18:06 PM
Can we get a Java warning on this kind of stuff. Some of us did Java at Uni and haven't been the same since. ;)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2009, 04:08:15 AM
Oops.  I forgot all about codism.

*edit*

Wait, that looks like discrimination of fish.  Codeism?  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Captain Kibble on December 10, 2009, 07:08:11 AM
Its not codeism its just every time I come across Java it make me want to cry. Saying that so does C# these days, which is unfortunate as that's my day job at the moment. I cry a lot. :)

I'd love to be able to tell you what to do about setting that up but I haven't a clue and the website doesn't exactly scream information at you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2009, 07:49:34 AM
I read it, but it doesn't mean anything to me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on December 10, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
Setting it up is pretty easy actually. Download the server software, RTFM, Profit!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2009, 17:50:41 PM
I downloaded it, I just don't know what to do with it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Captain Kibble on December 10, 2009, 20:16:15 PM
RTFM

Heretic! Burn him!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 11, 2009, 03:03:26 AM
Reading the manual only helps if you understand anything it says.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Captain Kibble on December 11, 2009, 03:33:08 AM
You can only RTFM if the site puts it on the front page right under your nose. Well, not so much 'you' as 'I' really. :)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Chevalier laughingnome on December 11, 2009, 22:17:04 PM
So do we have an LL server or what?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on December 14, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
So do we have an LL server or what?
Not yet. I can't run it on the Dreamhost servers..
Title: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 10, 2010, 17:23:55 PM
Hard to explain, so check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMTedT6P0I

It's a block-java game which you can build ANYTHING. Boats, minecarts, caves, mountains, UNDERGROUND LAIRS - but do it before nightfall, otherwise the skeletons and the wolves will have yo ass.

Demo here, full game with crafting is $10

http://www.minecraft.net/
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 10, 2010, 17:40:10 PM
Jesus, I thought I was good. This is insane, if you have time, watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjyhggH2Pk&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWPk5zlKAEM&feature=player_embedded#!

And PLEASE, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94&feature=player_embedded#!


Articles:

http://mashable.com/2010/10/01/minecraft-social-media/
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/01/s-inspired-minecraft-takes-online-gaming-world/
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 11, 2010, 02:09:57 AM
Lanky still hasn't set up a server for me.   :(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 11, 2010, 22:25:29 PM
I still can't run alternative servers on my webhosting boxes. But I could setup a machine at home but my connection at home sucks more than Buster sucks Superman's cock :-p
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 12, 2010, 04:53:46 AM
I have the hacked version, so if we DO get this up and running I can distribute to all LLand peeps, and we all can play the (almost) current version without forking over the $10 each.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 12, 2010, 05:15:09 AM
I'm all about stealing from giant companies, but this guy made a great game in his basement.  I gladly forked over my $10 after playing the free version for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 07:33:26 AM
One year.  One year I was off of that game, you dick.  I was free.  Then you're all like, "come play it again, it's even better than before."  And I'm all, "sure, what the fuck, I'll log in."  Then, bam, it's fucking 6:30 in the morning and I have to leave for work.

...right after I add on more level onto my tower.

...and a row of torches.

...oh, and I can make better swords now that I got iron.  I better see how well that works on the stupid spiders so I can get some string to make some bows and then I can take out the zombies from further away...

I hate you!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 08:37:56 AM
Sure, I don't feel bad though, he's pulled in $3,828,118 as of last month, and it isn't even beta yet.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 08:43:54 AM
(http://troublethinking.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/minecraft.jpg?w=717&h=428)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 09:04:55 AM
Meh.  I liked sandbox mode before.  The old survival version sucked.  The new Alpha though, that is some fun shit.  I never want to play sandbox again.

It looks like it saves the levels as files now.  Does that mean you can share the files?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 09:08:38 AM
I believe so, want me to try and send you mine, or vice versa?

Also - this is AWESOME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs&feature=player_embedded

Hilarity starts about 1.10, although I watched the whole thing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 09:29:47 AM
Bwahahaha.  And this is why the third little pig built his house out of stone.

There was no fire like that when I used to play.  There was lava that would burn stuff, but not fire that would spread.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 09:54:45 AM
I'm no architect, but I built a stronghold - mud and stone on the top level, digging underground revealed about 60% stone, so I fleshed downstairs out with 100% stone, replacing so it all matched. Shots attached.

The third shot is my personal joy - taken from the highest point on my walls, it stretches high into the night sky: a beacon, so no matter were I am when night falls I can find home.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 10:02:55 AM
Yeah, I started lighting mine up so I could find it at night.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 10:46:43 AM
..I get the feeling your handiwork is far nicer than mine.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 13:37:38 PM
I'll screenshot my work in progress.  Also, since Lanky can't do a LL server, maybe Otter would able?  Then we can get all of us on one map.  I know LG wanted in on that earlier.  Otter, we know nothing about this stuff, we just want a dedicated LL Minecraft server. Pain in the ass?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 13, 2010, 15:51:56 PM
Yeah, that would be cool. I'll stop building for now, and save it for the server. w00t!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 13, 2010, 17:44:01 PM
I wonder if Otter is reading this thread.  He might not be able to hear us in here.

OTTER!!!

OTTER!!!

Come here!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 14, 2010, 04:33:59 AM
When I get back next week I'll see if I can set something up on my computer thats always on / connected to the nets. It won't be super fast, but it might tide us over.

Also, screenshots super?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 14, 2010, 07:48:10 AM
oh hai!  I c what u did thar...

Super just directed me here via private message... I hadn't seen this thread because I typically skip the video game section... don't usually have a lot of time to play games (even though I sure would like to).

For $10, I'll even buy it.

My biggest concern is how much bandwidth it would steal - technically speaking I'm 100% positive I can do it.

Let me research a little and get back to you!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 14, 2010, 07:52:10 AM
Most importantly, let us know what it'll cost you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 14, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
quite possibly nothing... I'm thinking I might setup Linux in a VM on my computer at home to do this but I'm not sure what the bandwidth requirements are and since I have ADSL at home - it might not be enough.

I want to contain it in a VM because I'm uncomfortable about the possible security flaws around alpha/beta software... but I'm pretty comfortable with it when I put it inside a little sand-box and poke specific holes through just for the primary connections.

So yeah... I can set it up here at work the same way (in a VM on my computer)... that might ultimately be better.  I suppose if I make it a VM I can also easily move the .vhd from one place to the next if needed and then just inform you guys when the location changes... sounds like a good plan all of a sudden.... then if needed it could be transferred safely to another LL member too and "replayed" there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 14, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
Much like when Lanky told me to RTFM, I have no idea what you just said, but I'll assume it was generally positive.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 14, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Otter - you may need to purchase the game to use it, or you could use Super's login. Then, if you host, I'm 80% sure others can jump on your server for free, as you are hosting.

If that doesn't work, I have an older version which is still pretty current, and am pretty certain you could use it to set up a free server, and free for others to play.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 14, 2010, 14:08:45 PM
There must be a way to control who can get on it.  If it costs Otter money, I was going to suggest a small fee for people that want to play on a private Lankyland server to cover costs and Otter's time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 02:55:08 AM
I looked at the online stuff.  The new adventure game thing isn't available for multiplayer yet, so we can only play the old original game, which is the one I was talking about originally anyway, so that's cool with me until the new version is ready for multiplayer.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 04:20:41 AM
...which is the free version anyway. Awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 04:29:56 AM
It's still like playing in a big room of life sized legos together.  I'm super excited.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 04:44:17 AM
ok... I've setup a server... no idea if I've done it right... followed instructions here:

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Setting_up_a_server

I CAN access it from outside the firewall (verified)... I have NOT published it on the Minecraft web site because I don't want everyone in the world hitting our server - and also because LL's forum is google-able I won't post it here for the world to see.

I will - however - PM both of you with the info.

So attempt a connection and let me know what you find... I'm not even sure I've got the right thing running.  It didn't cost me anything.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 04:49:33 AM
Omigodomigod!

Can you send it to LG too?  I think he was interested last year when we threw out the idea.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 06:32:54 AM
sure... or you can forward it to anyone you want... I just don't want the whole world on there ;)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 06:49:40 AM
Agreed.  I'm a huge fan of keeping it just LL personally.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 09:25:33 AM
So... super, any luck? I'm trying to hook up the Java (free) version to it, as it is online, but no dice so far.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 09:28:09 AM
No.  I still have to go to work everyday, jerkface.

...I miss you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Did you use this connection string?

http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=<ipaddressigaveyou>&port=25565

where it says "<ipaddressigaveyou>" you type the IP Address that I gave you... without the "s or the <'s?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 10:40:17 AM
Even if we play not "logged in", our our changes to the world saved? That's all I care about.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 10:41:44 AM
it says that they are not saved if you're not logged-in... will it not let you login?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 10:47:06 AM
Well, I try to log in with my registered name, which is only registered for the free version, and it says "The name wasn't verified by minecraft" although it just let me log on, maybe I need to pay $10 to be one of you cool cats.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 10:49:30 AM
My bad, error is 'the name wasn't verified by minecraft' - can you switch your server so it accepts non-verified names?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 10:51:23 AM
let me see if that's a setting!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 15, 2010, 10:55:24 AM
I did find a setting... but it was a little scary... I went ahead and did it.  Give it a try and let me know if that's the problem.

The warning I got when I changed it was this:

###############WARNING##################
verify-names is set to false! This means that anyone who
connects to this server can choose any username he or she
wants!  This includes impersonating an OP!
If you wish to fix this, edit server.properties, and change
verify-names to true.
###############WARNING##################

So yeah, give it a whirl... and let me know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 11:11:56 AM
OMG WELCOME TO LANKYLANDS MINECRAFT PARADISE

I LOOVEEEEE YOUUUUUU OTTER

For anyone else:

Step 1: log into Minecraft.net, or go to Minecraft.net and register. It's free.
Step 2: go to the addy http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=?????????&port=25565 - where the ?s are the IP from Otter
Step 3: WIN
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 15:20:44 PM
Eeeeeeek!  It works!!!

Who's brick house?  I love it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 15, 2010, 16:56:56 PM
MAH BRICK HOUSE! Thanks for the help on the roof, I propose a NS and EW pink bridge, connecting the 4 corners of this hallowed land. Converging.... on.... my house?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2010, 17:59:45 PM
I made a little diagonal one so I can get over to my house.  I'm all for something a little nicer.  I plan on building out from that corner fairly substantially still.  Another level and maybe crest over that hill.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 16, 2010, 01:52:51 AM
LOL... my computer restarted itself for Windows Updates at 3am and didn't restart the VM... I'll fix that, but probably not today... in meetings all day.  Sorry for anyone who tried to access it while it was offline!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 16, 2010, 05:03:10 AM
Psh.  Whatever.  You just made my life.

Otter is my new favorite.  The rest of you are shit.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 16, 2010, 16:24:48 PM
Just logged in, and Super totally upstaged me. Someone else come, so I'm not the lamest one!!!!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 17, 2010, 00:38:37 AM
I think I pretty much finished up on the basics of my house.

Also, I built a sharp tooth leg, but it's up on a hill and I'm worried I'm going to hit the height limit when I try to finish him off.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 17, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
I'm amazed. I need like a year to build something that will even compete. But... no.. time!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 17, 2010, 17:54:59 PM
I took out the pink bridge and put in a road.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 17, 2010, 21:09:10 PM
You are unstoppable. Or really, REALLY bored.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 18, 2010, 02:49:39 AM
It's just a flat road.  It doesn't take that long.  ...until I accidentally flood it.  I'll fix that eventually.

I'm pretty sure that new house next to you in Lanky's  I also gave him a hand making that pyramid in the lake.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 18, 2010, 10:31:42 AM
I made a house that has a moat now. It will soon have a very deep moat as I was digging underground. Contemplating digging the moat down to the lava so that I can have the tallest building around.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 18, 2010, 11:23:55 AM
this link
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties displays all the params for the server.properties file that I can set - let me know if you want me to set any of them!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 18, 2010, 17:20:58 PM
Careful with the main road.  It's under the water level.  Lanky and I spent half an hour unflooding it today.  ...then he flooded it again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 18, 2010, 19:03:05 PM
Careful with the main road.  It's under the water level.  Lanky and I spent half an hour unflooding it today.  ...then he flooded it again.
My bad.

Still, the road is fun, it'll take you past the upside down pyramid.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 18, 2010, 19:33:29 PM
hahaha..... feel.... so... bound, need to check it NOW
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 20, 2010, 03:57:24 AM
Your pyramid got gigantic fast.  I'm glad you didn't star any lower or you would have completely blocked out the sun.

I started a lighthouse, but I hit the top of the sky way too early.  Now I built the roof and I'm building down towards the ground.  Sorry for the eyesore.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 20, 2010, 13:03:34 PM
Lanky, you are a road building machine.

I'm over it on the lighthouse.  I built it down from the top, but I got the tapering all wrong.  I'm over it.  The space up for grabs.  If you want it, feel free to knock it down.  If you want help, I'll do my part to clean up my mess.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 20, 2010, 13:43:29 PM
I love this thread.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on October 20, 2010, 14:16:53 PM
Pfft, why?  It's just a bunch of big babies sitting in their sandpit making truck noises and moving sand around. 




 :'(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 20, 2010, 15:16:21 PM
Come play with us.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on October 20, 2010, 16:07:14 PM
EVENTUALLY.   Not at work.   I've been moved to a supposedly more private spot in the office only to realise I've got my back to 2 meeting rooms.  FML.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 20, 2010, 22:38:21 PM
I am building a massive hole in one corner so that we can build a dinosaur without hitting the sky.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 21, 2010, 00:05:06 AM
My dinosaur is up on a hill and never hit the sky.  I think he's turning out okay.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 21, 2010, 01:02:10 AM
So I'm just digging a hole then and trying to avoid it being flooded with water or lava.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 21, 2010, 02:00:00 AM
re- dinosaurs.... there's a setting I can turn on that's related to "monsters".... hmmm
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 21, 2010, 02:19:12 AM
So I'm just digging a hole then and trying to avoid it being flooded with water or lava.

Hahaha.  No, we can build dinosaurs coming out of it.  What corner are you in?  Brick house, shitty lighthouse attempt, T-Rex, or pyramid?

re- dinosaurs.... there's a setting I can turn on that's related to "monsters".... hmmm

After reading through them, I think those settings are just for the other version of the game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 21, 2010, 03:52:09 AM
you're probably right... seeing as I haven't even played yet - I have no idea!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on October 21, 2010, 09:12:27 AM
So I'm just digging a hole then and trying to avoid it being flooded with water or lava.
Why?  I had a go just playing around on the demo version last night and I was digging down into underground caves and creating elaborate tunnel systems and then deliberately flooding them.  It was fun! 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 21, 2010, 11:21:21 AM
Yea, I don't think in this version we can die, so bring on the lava!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on October 21, 2010, 12:30:53 PM
Yeah I found a secret cave full of mushrooms and went for a swim in a magma lake.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on October 21, 2010, 18:39:38 PM
The magma kinda traps you, once you are in it it is very hard to get out of it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on October 22, 2010, 09:08:36 AM
Really?   I didn't notice.  But.... I had some performance issues with my puter and my internets and everything felt like walking through magma anyway.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on October 22, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
I tried to log in, and minecraft told me their severs were too busy yesterday. Lankyland's influence?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 30, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
is anyone still playing?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 30, 2010, 06:37:23 AM
Yup.  Though Hades just informed me ours is down today.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Otter ☧ on October 30, 2010, 08:12:08 AM
It should be up right now... I had it down for a couple days on accident but started it back up this morning (Denver time, about 8 or 9am)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 30, 2010, 08:48:01 AM
Hmm, I checked over lunch and it was still down.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 17, 2010, 23:15:26 PM
Otter - you may need to purchase the game to use it, or you could use Super's login.
The website said something about only allowing one download place per login. Perhaps he meant IP restriction for each account?

Also....

WTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!! Why didn't I know about this game?! I just found out about it from Good Game (gamer tv show here in Australia) and I had to buy it. It's now 11pm and I have to wake up at 6am to prepare for my Dad's wedding tomorrow.

It's awesome. It looked so awesome that I just bought myself a copy and I also bought a gifted version for my brother. I'm having SOOOO much fun with it. I also saw the video of that dude who made the Starship Enterprise in it. Epic stuff. Crazy time-consuming stuff. How the hell do you even execute something like that in-game?

Anyway, I hope everyone in the world gets this game. The dude who made it deserves his millions.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 18, 2010, 03:41:59 AM
Ahhh, Mincraft.  It's been forever.  Otter, is your server still going?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 18, 2010, 06:19:49 AM
So what happens when we play together? We help each other build stuff?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 18, 2010, 06:26:15 AM
Yeah, it's the classic Mincraft.  Not the new adventure thingy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 19, 2010, 10:13:33 AM
I believe so, want me to try and send you mine, or vice versa?

Also - this is AWESOME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs&feature=player_embedded

Hilarity starts about 1.10, although I watched the whole thing.
I just watched this last night. It was hilarious.


Also, there's a lava tower in this one—I'm only starting to explore, so don't tell me how to make anything :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWJqCWetH-c
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on December 19, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
They're all sad people. Only LLand people can play MC and avoid the label "sad"
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 19, 2010, 14:51:48 PM
Only LLand people can play it with the label "awesome".

So do you guys still play? I'm depressed that I missed out on the whole Lankyland-Minecraft fad.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 19, 2010, 15:49:00 PM
I just tried to log in and it looks like our server is down.  My roommate to be had one set up once.  We move in Feb and I'll get him to set it up again.  Then we don't have to mooch on Otter's employers.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 19, 2010, 16:04:21 PM
I'm down with that. This game is so much fun. It really is, as you describe, like living in a lego world. But with a real world twist—if you don't look after yourself, the monsters will get you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on December 19, 2010, 16:12:22 PM
Well, we also play a version with no bad guys.... so we're in utopia.... but... yeah, makes total sense to me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 21, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
I. Am. Amazed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebhFHYcHGvY
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 21, 2010, 15:02:57 PM
Holy shit.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on December 21, 2010, 19:07:53 PM
I'm..... stunned.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 22, 2010, 03:08:45 AM
How topical.  Minecraft just got out of alpha.  Also, it jumped to $20.  You got in just in time Pianoman.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 22, 2010, 07:45:16 AM
My favourite part about the video 3 posts above is the fist pumping. It polishes the experience for me.

How topical.  Minecraft just got out of alpha.  Also, it jumped to $20.  You got in just in time Pianoman.
I know!! I only bought the game 2 days before its beta phase. I couldn't believe how fortunate I was to find the review when going back over old episodes of Good Games that I'd missed.

To be honest, I did look at the Minecraft website when you first posted about it, but it didn't draw me in. Not until I saw the TV review did I think that I had to have it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 22, 2010, 14:02:46 PM
*sigh* I've just found my first Redstone—and after reading about what it can do in the wiki, I'm floored.

Traps, mechanisms, and logic gates! This game has so much re-playability.

E.g. Someone very meticulous has created a 16-bit calculator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6JqoE7MZEE

I also found an animal cannon the other day. It actually shoots animals. Very clever game design.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeV0XB-w_yM

And by popular demand, the fella who built the animal cannon launches himself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSaGG0CmEfQ
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 22, 2010, 14:56:36 PM
OK, I just lost control of my bladder in the face of this person's awesomeness. They designed a semi-automated freight system and depot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC3d75qGBiA

LMAO. If you've ever seen the Boom De Yada Discovery channel advertisement, you'll like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ3j0VB4SI
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 22, 2010, 15:42:27 PM
Holy shit. The calculator and the freight depot are out of control.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 22, 2010, 20:20:11 PM
I reckon the calculator might make sense to anyone who understands binary, but I have no clue about that freight system. I don't even know how to begin trying to understand. The complexity of it gets me. It has eight bays, and if they're all full, the powered cart goes back to its resting place.

Did I see you say in an earlier post that you didn't like Survival mode? You guys were just playing on Peaceful with unlimited access to all the blocks? Like a giant Lego land?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 23, 2010, 00:09:35 AM
There's no multiplayer survival mode.  The multiplayer is Minecraft Classic only.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on December 26, 2010, 15:55:42 PM
More people need to share their environments to the general public, but I think there would be a lot of toolery.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 26, 2010, 19:03:44 PM
More people need to share their environments to the general public, but I think there would be a lot of toolery.
Yeah, there are videos on Youtube of griefers destroying things.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 27, 2010, 16:10:39 PM
Short, neat video/song of Minecraft.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MinecraftChick#p/a/f/0/vIhs8_m5qPc
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on December 27, 2010, 16:14:51 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to come along and buy this guy out, and blow the lid off this with a minecraft 2.o - it could rivall wow
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 04, 2011, 22:52:11 PM
I don't think he'll sell out. He's making plenty of money from sales of the game already and it's only just gone Beta.

Also, I just had to share this with you guys:

(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v1u689.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 05, 2011, 02:47:26 AM
I'm with Pianoman. I don't see any motivation to sell.

In the early days, he had a trial version of the survival mode. I thought it was just stupid and I was far more interested in the classic version.  That carried over at least a little into when we got Otter to put up that server.  I had to admitt that the new survival game was much better, but I was still in it for the classic mode.  However, the other day I started a new survival game.  I am officially hooked.  Wow.  There really is enough going on for a really great game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 05, 2011, 09:58:05 AM
Also, apparently every time someone discovers this game, I lose a little bit of my life to it again.

Damn you Pianioman.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 05, 2011, 13:24:36 PM
Sandbox is the way forward.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 05, 2011, 16:58:35 PM
Sandbox hasn't changed since it first launched.  I'll totally give you that it has a ton of original appeal, but there's only so long that it can hold you.  I started a second game on the survival game and I can't stop.  Probably 12 hours in the last three day.

...I need help.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 05, 2011, 18:16:25 PM
Oops, sorry. I will admit that Hades was right, and I became a little addicted for a week or two. But I've got it under control now and I'm managing to keep up household chores and more ;)

Sorry, Superman. I didn't realise that the current Survival game is much better than it used to be. I just assumed you hated the idea of waiting for the sun to rise before you could continue building your visions. I'm building myself a castle and keep, with gardens, fountain and perhaps a chapel planned. I'll see if I can finish something worthy of a screenshot for you guys.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 06, 2011, 04:12:08 AM
I'm strip mining durring the day.  At night I was building my tower (just finished), and I'm branch mining under my tower.  The night and day does a good job of breaking up my time so I don't get bored.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 06, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
Now that I'm building something grand (all of my previous constructions were somewhat lacking), I really wanna share a proper Survival server with you guys.

I built a little shack next to my spawn point, mined a shaft all the way down to the bedrock and am also strip mining. It's yielding more diamond than I've found in previous games, where I just "mined around" and explored natural cave systems.

Have you visited the Nether yet? If not, then you're in for a treat.

P.S. I've attached a few screenshots of my construction.

P.P.S. I have to clear some rather large hills inside the area of my castle walls. It suddenly occurred to me as I drifted off to sleep last night that I could use TNT to blast them away instead of digging/mining them away. I had enough sulfur stored to create three blocks of TNT—and, hot dang, it's WAY fun. And much faster. So, I'll have to build a trap to catch creepers to feed me sulfur, so I've decided to visit the Nether to gather lava...
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 06, 2011, 11:40:28 AM
My future roommate had a server set up for a while.  I'm going to see if I can have him set up a classic server and a multiplayer survival server.  Hopefully whatever bugs there are will be fixed by then.

Also, I'm a huge fan of using tnt to blast away upper levels for stip mining.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 06, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
Holy shit. That castle is awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 06, 2011, 16:46:18 PM
Wow amazing.

I am looking into minecraft for iFone. Ultimate win-win
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 06, 2011, 22:44:37 PM
Oops, I misunderstood what strip mining is. I meant I'm underground mining. I don't use explosives cuz I think there's a chance of destroying the minerals/ores.

I can't really take credit for the castle. It's inspired by this. I wanted to see how it would look, and it looks good. I'll be changing that front design to something of my own creation. I've been studying castles to understand what would make it authentic.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 07, 2011, 04:37:40 AM
Have you visited the Nether yet? If not, then you're in for a treat.

No.  I have some obsidian that I've farmed sitting just 20 blocks from my home base, but I'm nowhere near getting diamond, so I can't harvest it yet.

I'm still using mostly stone tools.  When I do get the occasional batch of iron, I use it to replace my sword and armor.  Those usually lasts me long enough to hit another vein and replace them again.  I'd love to be using iron tools until I hit diamond instead.

Did you guys know you can wear the pumpkins as helmets?  It doesn't seem to improve the armor by anything and it impairs your view a little, but it's still kind of cool.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 07, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
Did you guys know you can wear the pumpkins as helmets?  It doesn't seem to improve the armor by anything and it impairs your view a little, but it's still kind of cool.
Yes! Haha, I saw what it looked like on Youtube. It's funny, but on single player there's no point obscuring your vision.

I've attached my first attempt at a skin. Green hair with a white streak.

Apparently diamond is more common (or only appears?) in the deep. Also, I only use iron for steel picks (one at a time, until I lose them or they wear out), and armour. I use stone tools for everything, always. It's slower, but I prefer to hoard my iron, and diamond is just so rare. The only thing I've ever built from diamond is a pick to harvest obsidian. I did use it on normal stone for a while—it tears through stone like a shovel through dirt!—but when it does wear out (although it'll take a long time) I feel guilty that I wasted diamond on regular stone. Maybe if I find more diamond...

You can also create obsidian. It's actually never placed by the map generator, but created by natural circumstances afterward.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 07, 2011, 10:32:57 AM
I'd love to use iron picks.  I just need to get to where there's more iron.  For now I just use iron for the armor and swords since ideally I won't use them much.

Yes, from what I understand you have to get pretty deep to normally find diamond.

That's what I meant about farming obsidian.  I had a couple lava pools just 10 or so blocks down right next to my base, so I made some obsidian out of it to mine later.  That way I have obsidian and my quarries won't fill with lava when I start digging them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 07, 2011, 12:20:30 PM
I gotcha. Strip mining does sound pretty cool. Just blowing up the land to harvest her goodies.

Btw, remember how you likened Minecraft to living in a Lego world? Check out Legopak.

I want you to visit The Nether! I want you to find out for yourself what it's like. You have to visit it on a setting where mobs will spawn. There's no point visiting an empty Nether on Peaceful setting.

P.S. I find heaps of iron... especially since I've only used about 30 ingots to make a whole buncha buckets and a couple of steel picks.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 07, 2011, 17:23:35 PM
Well, you don't want to actually mine with the tnt.  It destroys too much of the material.  I just use it to help plow out hills so I can get some flat land.

The strip mining is making a 20X20 or so pit and stripping away one level at a time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 07, 2011, 18:11:05 PM
So do you just find enough sulfur on your own or do you hack it in?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 07, 2011, 18:38:08 PM
Wow, the nether looks AWESOME
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 07, 2011, 21:57:34 PM
Wow, the nether looks AWESOME
Riiiight? How freaking creepy is it? Did you venture into the open and get swamped? At first, it's like, "Oh, hello there big white thingy." Until it becomes, "Ahhhh, just lea-ea-ea-eave me alone  :'("

Try building something there. It's a bloody pain.

You'd better hurry up and find some diamond to gather that obsidian, Superman!


Oh, by the way, remember how someone built a calculator in Minecraft? Pfft, apparently that was nothing. Why not build an entire CPU with RAM and other computey stuff I no understand?


Anyway, I just deleted my world. It was favourite world to date, but I didn't like the castle. It's not me. I'm going to design something myself. I'm thinking the home of Queen Galadriel and her elves from The Lord Of The Rings.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 01:49:09 AM
You get sulphur from killing the green explodey guys.

What do you mean hack it in?  Is that a cheat?  Lame.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 08:51:12 AM
You get sulphur from killing the green explodey guys.

What do you mean hack it in?  Is that a cheat?  Lame.
You'd be surprised how many players think it's perfectly fine. I asked because while I find lots of iron, I don't really seem to find a lot of creepers (green explodey guys). I really wanna make lotsa TNT but it's an agonising wait.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
I try to avoid going out at night when I can.  Zombies, creepers, and even spiders in small numbers are okay, but as soon as I hear the skeleton's bow, I run inside as fast as I can.

I have had a few run ins with creeper surprise attacks though.  Never ever get close to a wall with a ledge above you at night.  Those creepers jump down on you and explode before you ever know they're there.  It happened once in my new quarry (Pictures soon, I promise.) that I foolishly thought was deep enough to deter attacks and again when I stupidly decided I couldn't wait to go do some cosmetic repairs to my outer wall.  They jump off the ledge right on your head and it might be the scariest thing ever.  Just as you hear the hiss and are about to spin around, *boom*, dead.

I mostly collect sulfur in the early mornings.  The zombies and skeletons are just catching fire and you can collect their loot, the spiders leave you alone, and there are usually a few creepers out.  It's light out so they're easier to see and they don't have any other monsters to team up with, so they're easier to pick off.  I try to stage the fight on a hill I'm trying to demolish anyway, so if I screw up and don't get the loot, at least they blast a hole in the hill.

I think I've made about 5 blocks of tnt so far, so that averages out to 25ish successful kills.  Seems about right.  Like I said, it's really only good for blasting away the top dirt or maybe the top few levels of stone to expose lower levels.  It destroys most of the collectible material in the blast, so you don't want to use it on any ore.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
Spiders seem to remain aggressive towards me until well after the skeletons and zombies have finished burning. I really want to make a monster harvesting centre. The forums are a bit of confusing, but I think I have a reasonable idea of how to build one.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Hmmm, they should be mostly passive in the daylight.  Sometimes if I get too close they come at me, but I've never had one stalk me down like at night.

Yeah, those guys on the minecraft forums have some really elaborate ideas. I can't usually figure out what exactly they're describing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Yeah, those guys on the minecraft forums have some really elaborate ideas.
Understatement of the year. They calculate everything to the nth degree!


I just wish curves could look better on a smaller scale..
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 14:27:35 PM
I was thinking about that. There must be some algorithm that figures out how to make circles at a pixilated level.  My only thought on how to calculate it for now is to open up a photoshop doc, zoom all the way in, make a circle, and then count out how they do it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 14:39:00 PM
Yeah, I do the same thing to make a circle... someone put a nice guide up on the forum for how to make circles of different radii, which could be layered to make a sphere or part thereof.

You can make diagonal/curved structures, but so far all of mine have looked too weird for me to be happy with. I'm not yet ready for the super-gigantic constructions that make curves look good, either.

Visit The Nether!!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 15:21:25 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but that's what I came with while lying awake at night thinking about Minecraft.

Can you link that formula here?  I like that better than my idea.

No diamond, yet.  I'm maybe 20 levels down.  Getting there.  I'm going to put in some time in tomorrow.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 17:12:09 PM
I've been trying to find the circle-making guide, but the search function isn't working and I have no idea where I found it—… wait…

Aw, dang, I'm a knob-end. I saved it to my desktop. I've attached it here for ya. Looks like someone took the time to make it easier to read what one might whip up in a Paint-type program.

Anyway, for me to find diamond so quickly, I mined straight down to the bedrock and then search off to the sides.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 17:32:10 PM
Oooo.  That's picture is perfect.

Here's pictures of my tower and mining pit.  Very utilitarian.  I just needed something I could always find my way back to.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 19:11:07 PM
Holy crap, that's the prettiest mining pit I've ever seen. You really just mine everything out of there! All those torches… I take it you have no problem finding enough coal. I've switched to using wooden planks to fuel my furnaces, since coal is a finite resource. Although, given coal's availability, it's probably a precaution I don't need to take… I just tend to hoard resources in any game that I play.

I've had a few different ideas for lighthouses, but I'm intent on designing one that hasn't been done before. The nicest one I've seen, which surprises me because it's very square, was a recreation of the Lighthouse of Alexandria (attached). I'm thinking of an ivory (cotton or snow) upstretched arm, with a single lava spring spiralling down to the sea. I've also had this urge to build my vision of Belgarath's tower (from The Belgariad).
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 08, 2011, 19:27:18 PM
Very nice.  I'll have to go back and build something pretty eventually.

Yeah, I have like 6 sets of 64 of coal.  Not really worried about it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2011, 20:39:01 PM
OK, I've decided to create my own forest. I like the idea of growing my own creation.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 09, 2011, 04:09:51 AM
Yeah, I need to start farming trees soon.  My area around my base was already tundra.  Now I've clear cut the few stands of trees I did have.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 09, 2011, 04:11:05 AM
This guy's enterprise is just phenomenal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94

And this guy built this thing in beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UeJGdSBouM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 09, 2011, 21:53:44 PM
Super needs to visit the nether, he has all the materials right piano?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2011, 03:10:47 AM
Super needs to visit the nether, he has all the materials right piano?

Congratulations on having more time to play the game than me?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2011, 09:18:41 AM
Super needs to visit the nether, he has all the materials right piano?
No, Super needs to find 3x diamond ore blocks before he can fashion a diamond pick to mine the obsidian.


Hey Super, you'd be surprised at how quickly you can create a tree farm. A lot of saplings drop from trees that you've cut down. If you plant them all, harvest and repeat they get plentiful quickly. I'm kinda going for something different. I wanna create an enchanted forest, with extra tall trees and a proper living canopy.

That Colloseum is incredible. THOSE guys have a lot of time dedicated to Minecraft. It seems that the nicer stuff is created by teams of people, which is why I'd love to try a server.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2011, 12:29:17 PM
Funny that you mentioned tree farming again.  Mass deforestation has finally forced me to tree farm.  I just finished building my farm and was coming here to show it off.

I set aside a 20X20 square, checkered it with saplings a torches, threw a roof on it 8 spaces up, then I put a wheat farm on the roof.  The wheat farm is up high enough that no mob can get up, and the waterfall wall created from the irrigation makes sure no mobs can get into the tree farm.  The whole thing can be operated any time of day with no interruption.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 10, 2011, 14:44:22 PM
Super, you deserve to be a millionaire architect. I could never devise this in a 100 years.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2011, 14:53:54 PM
I was going to be an architect.  My plans changed on my third time through calculus.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2011, 16:18:44 PM
That's elegantly beautiful, but wouldn't harvesting wheat be a little difficult without trampling your tilled soil? I love the look of your waterfall walls. I saw a water palace on Youtube today using the same walls as your tree farm and I've been inspired to try something like it in the future. There are so many possibilities.

It's such a bitch to build anything with the monster interruptions. It's nice when I can finally get a perimeter up to keep them out of my construction sites.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2011, 18:47:51 PM
I'll show what I'm trying to create. I hope it turns out nicely. Tell me what you think and whether it gives you any ideas.

I'm not sure how to prune the extra tall trees, and I might remove all of the lower foliage altogether for the forest outside of the tree home. I basically just waited for a bunch of planted saplings to grow, then I cut into the canopy directly above each trunk, placed a dirt tile and planted another sapling. Some of the trees are 2x trees high and a couple of them are 3x trees high.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2011, 19:54:02 PM
Oooo, that's fun.  Trees always contuse me, so I put that ceiling on them for easy harvesting. I like that you're getting really creative with them, but I wouldn't know the first thing about it.

I mostly walk through the channels when I'm farming, and I crouch when I have to walk over the actual tilled land.  Do you have a better layout idea?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2011, 20:33:51 PM
Danke… I think it'll look awesome when it's a real forest.

As for farming, my first farm was two wheat fields wide and next to a path. That way it was pretty quick and easy to harvest without having to spend much time sneaking/crouching so as not destroy the tilled land. A more efficient farm is probably the second picture, because (according to the Minecraft wiki) wheat will grow faster when it has two other wheat tiles on either side of it. Also, apparently water will hydrate four tiles next to it, even diagonally. The gravel is just for me—I really like the way gravel pathways look.

P.S. More pictures from the Age Of Mining server. I'm constantly amazed by what these guys produce.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 11, 2011, 07:50:07 AM
How do you harvest the square one without trampling the ground?  I think mine is about as easy.  I am up for fixing it though.  Pigs are abundant and heal just as much, so farming is more just to do it than out of any real need like with tree farming.

These guys figured out how to use the Kinect to take a 3D picture and recreate in in Minecraft.  Soooo awesome.

Also, Notch said he thinks Minecraft will officially launch later this year.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 11, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
When you sneak, you don't destroy tilled soil, but I wouldn't do the large square farm because I'd have to spend too much time sneaking. I liked my first one because even the wheat adjacent to the water will usually jump into your inventory, even if you're still on the pathway.

That's a very cool use for the Kinect, but it seems relatively simple: match each tile to a group of colours and then let the Kinect place those tiles in Minecraft. It's the interaction between the two that I like. Now that we know they can work with each other, it gives hope for actually using the Kinect to play Minecraft directly. Imagine fighting off a skeleton and then hastily assembling a base, running around dumping dirt before a creeper arrives!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 11, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
I just spent a bit going through that thread you linked.  Wow.  That's some amazing stuff.  I'll never have that kind of time.

I am currently rebuilding my base in the most impractical way I could think of.  I replaced all of my dirt walls with glass, and built a second glass wall around the base with one space in between the two walls and a glass trench between them.  Then, I'm pouring lava in between the two walls.  So when I'm done, I'll hopefully have a lava wall that you don't have to be afraid of getting too close to.  I only have 5 or 6 source blocks so far, but it already lights up the house and surrounding area more than my torches ever did.

I really want to build a floating island base, but I think I'll wait until we have a multi server set up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 11, 2011, 10:37:29 AM
Oh, and I finally found some gold last night so now I can... uh... ummm...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 11, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
Also, I just remembered I first created my farm to look like tiered fields. Every eight squares I dropped the ground by one tile and started another water channel with adjacent fields. It had a nice cascading look to it :)

I look forward to your lava house—it sounds awesome. Think of the extra warmth :P
If you're curious, there's lots of lava in The Nether ;)

I think lava is only one lux greater than a torch, but I also think it seems much brighter. Maybe it's because lava will flow and light up more squares, whereas we wouldn't really place four torches in a line like that to light things up.

I keep getting new ideas for things to build and only half complete anything I start. I will finish my tree home and enchanted forest, though.

So, we're really gonna get our own server set up???



Oh, and I finally found some gold last night so now I can... uh... ummm...
You can make a watch! I find a watch very handy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 11, 2011, 17:25:30 PM
If you're curious, there's lots of lava in The Nether ;)

I just hit redstone.  I have to be close.

So, we're really gonna get our own server set up???

Otter had a classic server set up for us before Beta was out and multi was supported for survival.  The guy I'm moving in with had one set up for a while but took it off.  We've actually been discussing setting up a dedicated box in our apartment for just Minecraft.  We both have potential boxes sitting around that might work really well.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 11, 2011, 17:45:16 PM
That's so cool. It'd be nice to see other people in a world.

I think many of the awesome creations we see are made in Peaceful or Creative mode. If they played in Survival, I don't think they'd have much time, either.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 11, 2011, 17:49:36 PM
Kinect has soooooooooooooooo many possibilities.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 12, 2011, 04:19:04 AM
This week (Friday?) we're supposed to get water mobs and paint (dye for wool?).
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 12, 2011, 08:05:17 AM
I wonder where the paint will come from…? I saw someone request dye from flowers on the forum. I hope it's not as cheesy as introducing a rainbow of flowers. I'd like to see more variety, like different types of stone, different types of tree... and the ability to fly!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 12, 2011, 08:08:40 AM
I want to know what the water mobs will be.

I haven't ever fished yet.  I should do that before he changes it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on January 12, 2011, 08:11:40 AM
Perhaps it'll be mobs of ill-tempered sea bass.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 12, 2011, 08:16:49 AM
I wonder where the paint will come from…? I saw someone request dye from flowers on the forum. I hope it's not as cheesy as introducing a rainbow of flowers. I'd like to see more variety, like different types of stone, different types of tree... and the ability to fly!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 12, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
Perhaps it'll be mobs of ill-tempered sea bass.

I hope not.  Swimming is already scary.

Oooo, flowers.  That's a really good idea actually.  I'm trying to think of what else is in the game that doesn't really do much.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 12, 2011, 08:32:45 AM
I look forward to being able to create a true aquarium. Imagine sitting down to read a book at your fireplace when a leviathan silently glides by your glass wall. Fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 12, 2011, 08:34:21 AM
Yes!  I'm going to catch one of whatever it is the first day.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 12, 2011, 20:23:14 PM
Diamond!!!

Look close, it's down there.

Okay.  Digging a quarry is officially a really bad way to do that. Also, it's only two. Still have to find another deposit.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 12, 2011, 21:44:42 PM
I have no idea how you mine like that without going crazy. It is admittedly hard to find diamond. You have a lot of torches up there, my friend ;) I've heard that diamond and lava can more commonly be found near each other, but I haven't really found that to be true. Anecdotally, I'd say that natural cave systems are easier to use to search for resources. Perhaps it's like that on purpose.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 13, 2011, 03:05:58 AM
The real pain is going to me getting those torches back down to reuse them.

I'm never going to do this again, so I think I'm just going to use this as an oversized mining shaft and branch out from here.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 13, 2011, 10:51:50 AM
You know, since you've already hollowed out this incredible underground area, I see an awesome underground fortress in your future. You could run lava down those stairs in the shaft walls. Oh, the possibilities!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 13, 2011, 12:14:33 PM
Yeah, that was part of why I kept at it. I've been trying to come up with something properly awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 13, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
Have you tried using a different texture pack? I really like how some of them look. I tried editing the texture of cobblestone last night, because it's just so ugly that I don't build with it. It's not so easy to come up with an awesome texture that tiles well. However, I was able to come up with some smooth textures that tiled well. I just don't know if I'd be happy to change cobblestone to a smooth texture—I mean, it's cobblestone. It's supposed to look uneven. It would save me a lot of energy spent smelting cobblestone back into smooth stone for building.

In particular, I wanna try the "betterlight" mod. It gives very realistic looking shadows. I also like the mods that colour an entire grass tile green, rather than just green on top with dirt on the side. A hill would normally be covered in grass, so I'm more comfortable with that edit.

Minecraft has sold one million copies. There's a site called http://onemillionminecrafters.net/ where you can upload your avatar and it gets put alongside everyone else who's uploaded theirs. There are A LOT.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 13, 2011, 16:50:47 PM
Meh. I'm not a huge fan of the mods I've seen. Though, I don't see anything wrong with texture packs. Some are actually really, really nice. I guess I'm still really satisfied with the game as is and don't see any need to change anything.

Also, here's the beginnings of my diamond mine. That top one is 20 rows up from the bottom which I is where I understand diamonds start appearing.

I was in the nether for a bit, but died right away and lot all the buckets I was going to use to smuggle lava back in. I had to go back to mining again to get more iron for more buckets.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 13, 2011, 19:09:04 PM
Your mine looks awesome. Also, I see that you're making good use of mine carts. I still haven't built any, so I have plenty of iron. I like the game, too. I just hate the look of cobblestone, although it looks nice when used as an accent in smooth stone constructions.

Hehehe, so how long did you last in The Nether? Ouch for the buckets. The very first time I visited, I was fortunate enough to enter in a cavern with plenty of land around. This time, I entered in the worst bloody place—a narrow platform suspended high above the ground below. It didn't take long for me to start getting hammered. Now, the Nether around where I entered is completely changed by all of the fireballs. It's like a huge crater.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 14, 2011, 02:32:25 AM
Yeah, mine carts are awesome.  It saves me tons of time walking up and down. You get 16 sets of track for each six chunks of iron. It seems like a lot, but they add up really fast.

I spent maybe 10 minutes in the nether. I was trying to dig a nice safe path down to the lava, but the ghasts kept shooting their fire balls at me and I got rushed and I opened up a straight drop right over a pool. It was a dumb mistake that I'd have never made normally.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 14, 2011, 04:26:00 AM
Quote from: Notch
Minecraft Beta 1.2
Minecraft Beta 1.2 is live. All servers need to be updated to 1.2.

New features:
* Note blocks (right click to tune, trigger to play)
* 15 wool dyes
* A new water dwelling mob
* New tree types
* Reeds magically turned into sugar canes. They still make paper.
* A bunch of new crafting recipes
* One secret useful block
* One secret pretty block
* Cake
* AND MOAR, probably. I forget!

Bugfixes:
* Paintings work in multiplayer
* Disconnecting while riding no longer keeps the player in the world
* A bunch more state is properly synched in multiplayer
* Fixed colors going weird on PowerPC
* Fixed a horrible chunk reload loop in singleplayer
* Fixed most lighting bugs in newly generated SMP maps
* Falling sand behaves better in SMP
* Fixed a few crash on load level bugs

*
It just launched like 10 minutes ago and people are already reporting in. (And it keeps coming in.  I'm just going to keep updating this guy as I hear about new stuff.)

Sounds like flowers can be used as dye along with squid ink.

Also there are now black sheep and it sounds like their wool can be bleached with bone meal made from dropped bones from skeletons.

People are posting pictures of lighter and darker tree trunks.

Logs can be turned into coal with a furnace.

Spiders can climb walls. Oh god.

Sand can be combined into sandstone.

You can dye sheep.

The distance light travels decreases the deeper you are underground.

A dispenser? It sounds like you can load it up with arrows and activate it with redstone to shoot the arrows back out.  Maybe a pressure plate and set up some automated defenses?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
Yeah, mine carts are awesome.  It saves me tons of time walking up and down. You get 16 sets of track for each six chunks of iron. It seems like a lot, but they add up really fast.

I spent maybe 10 minutes in the nether. I was trying to dig a nice safe path down to the lava, but the ghasts kept shooting their fire balls at me and I got rushed and I opened up a straight drop right over a pool. It was a dumb mistake that I'd have never made normally.
I was watching (and will continue to watch) someone setting up a minecart (a.k.a train) station. Oh my fricking God, I'm so lost. He's actually much easier to understand than most of the knobs who put a video up on Youtube, and he spends the right amount of time on each part. It's just so complicated for me. I'm not a logical person most of the time, so logic gates are confusing me so much :(

10 minutes? That's a whole day! You did well. It took me a while to realise that you have to move around The Nether out of the sight of ghasts. The first time I went, I ended up tunnelling over to where I saw some glowstone, which was quite far away. Then, I built cobblestone walls around it and straight up. It took me forever to harvest that glowstone. Upon reflection, I quite like that The Nether puts such pressure on you. The normal world in daytime is extremely calm, but The Nether just never—gives—up!
Quote from: Notch
Minecraft Beta 1.2
Minecraft Beta 1.2 is live. All servers need to be updated to 1.2.

New features:
<<snip snip>>

Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god!!! Notes! Playable notes! I think I just wet my pants.

Actually, I'm glad. A couple of the updates were things I had thought of suggesting but never got around to: new tree types; sand combining to form sandstone.
I wonder what the secret blocks and the new crafting recipes are!


Quote
Spiders can climb walls. Oh god.
So—I guess there'll be no taunting spiders from atop my battlements?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 14, 2011, 09:25:31 AM
You don't need a station or logic gates or any of that crap.  I just have a track straight from my base to the bottom of the quarry.  I ride a cart down, and then I have a powered cart push four carts full of stuff back up.  Cuts way down on the time to get down and I get to carry more than twice as much stuff back up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
The infinite boosters don't seem very complicated, though. The logic gates are just for super-duper systems that dispense carts as you need them.

Have you seen water ladders? Very cool. Fastest way to move straight up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 14, 2011, 10:37:03 AM
The water ladders are a great idea. One guy had a 1X2 pit straight down to the bedrock. One column of air and one of gravel. Then he had a pool of water at the top with the gravel column separating it from the open column. He jumped in hi boat and jumped straight down the shaft. Then at the bottom, he knocked out the bottom piece of gravel to let water into the hole at the top and rode the water back up.  Just genius.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 10:56:42 AM
Yeah. Recent videos showed me that you don't even need to travel in a boat, meaning that from the top you can just fall all the way down to the bottom, provided you have 3x water blocks depth to cushion your fall. However, there was one video I found on the forum that used a boat in a 2x2 pit. It looked more like an elevator.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 11:59:47 AM
Music block demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A02m9RtsVk&feature=player_embedded

Also:
- dispensers can shoot arrows through any type of block! Hidden traps, anyone?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on January 14, 2011, 14:12:37 PM
I am terrible at Minecraft. I struggle to get through the first night cause I spend too much time trying to find some trees, dirt and a place to build a house that by the time I start to build it is already getting dark.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 14:46:49 PM
I am terrible at Minecraft. I struggle to get through the first night cause I spend too much time trying to find some trees, dirt and a place to build a house that by the time I start to build it is already getting dark.
When I started playing I was determined to figure everything out for myself. However, after my first night running from everything in the dark, I realised I needed a helping hand, so I watched paulsoaresjr's tutorial (embedded in the Minecraft website's Help page). He suggested carving out a small hidey-hole in a hill with an entrance that you could then plug up with dirt, leaving one block of air open so you could see when the sun arises.

Now, I either carve a hidey-hole, or build myself a 3-block high wall out of dirt or sand and get to work at my crafting bench for the first night.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 14, 2011, 16:00:59 PM
^This. Create a cave, block the wall, and spend the first night building the hell out of it. Then get your crafting bench in there, and storage crate thingy, and you're set.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 16:12:58 PM
Agreed. I also like my new mining technique of using a mine shaft to get to the goodies deep down in the earth, so on my second day I look around for a neat location where I can dig down. It's nice to build a skylight for it and have the sun shine right down to the bedrock.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 14, 2011, 18:05:24 PM
I went back to the Nether. Died again. Lost another bucket. Miss mah bucket.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 18:39:06 PM
I'm going to have to learn some circuitry. These dispensers are awesome at shooting arrows.

UPDATE: perhaps the dispenser can only shoot through solid blocks placed to the South or West of the dispenser, i.e. it's a glitch. There are some other things that have broken.

- new worlds can be very laggy, may correct itself after 10-15mins
- minecart track lays East-West first, but doesn't properly align North-South if you try to build so
- random forest fires starting without being ignited by above-ground lava


I went back to the Nether. Died again. Lost another bucket. Miss mah bucket.
LOL, how sucky can The Nether be?!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 14, 2011, 23:29:26 PM
I started a new world and the map generator seems to have created a more natural looking landscape. I also decided it's time for a new skin. My first attempt was more of a practice go. Now, I'm running around as Drizzt Do'Urden. He's a Drow, or Dark Elf. Whatcha reckon?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 03:01:38 AM
Very cool. I never bother with a skin, because I never play in F5.

I was thinking of starting a new world to generate some of the new stuff, but I've never been very far from home base anyway, so I won't have to walk far to generate some new chunks.

I went wood harvesting at night in my "monster proof" arboretum at night. In the trees. The spiders are in the trees. Oh god.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 03:30:49 AM
I am terrible at Minecraft. I struggle to get through the first night cause I spend too much time trying to find some trees, dirt and a place to build a house that by the time I start to build it is already getting dark.

Just dig out a hole and close yourself in until morning. You can just wait out the night for the first few nights. You don't have to build anything pretty the first day.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
I checked the specs on the box I want to use it seems like it'll be more than sufficient. I've done some research and I think I found the software set up I want to use. I'm going to do some trials this weekend and see how it goes. If I get to that stage, would you mind being my overseas tester, Pianoman?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 15, 2011, 09:04:44 AM
… this weekend… would you mind being my overseas tester, Pianoman?
Yayyy. I might be out for most of this weekend, though. What city are you in, so I can figure out times?


Very cool. I never bother with a skin, because I never play in F5.
I almost never do either, but I can always see my right hand.


As for spiders, yeah... There I was, happily waiting out the night in my enclosure, reading the forum, when I hear "Ou! Oo! Oh! Aa!" and I'm like, hey, that's me getting hurt! Yep, a friggin spider had scaled the wall. I don't know how, since they're only supposed to climb the wall if they can see you.

I hadn't moved very far in my old map, either, but I was seeing no squids, so I figured I might as well start anew. There are definitely more flowers and plenty of passive animals. I quite like the new trees, as I can use them to prettify my place. I'm happiest with the return of coloured cloth, so I can warm my home up with carpeting.

I totally want to see rain in this Minecraft.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 09:25:52 AM
GMT -7

I think the spiders just climb around the same way they used to just walk around, only now also vertically.

Also, they spawn in the trees!!!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 15, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
Monsters already spawned in trees, though. I saw it all the time.

Sydney's currently at GMT +11, so you're 18 hours behind moi, meaning... that at 10:00am here, it's 4:00pm there?
You're not ready for testing yet, though, are you.. so just lemme know.

*sigh* There needs to be a good way to navigate through a Minecraft world. It's so easy to get lost. Maybe that's the point, and that if I really want to find my way home then I should build lighthouses.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 10:08:44 AM
They did spawn in trees before? I had never seen it. scared the hell out of me.

I'm not even close to ready. I'll tinker with it tonight when I get home. I'd love to have it up tonight already, but I wouldn't count on it.

Roads, landmarks, and a really tall tower on your spawn point. That's really all you can do.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 15, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
Roads, landmarks, and a really tall tower on your spawn point. That's really all you can do.
Well, the spawn point isn't so much of an issue, since one can build a compass which always points towards the spawn point. However, if one were to explore for a while, settle, and set off once again for exploration, how would you find your way back? Like you say, towers, directional assistance. Actually, that's not so bad an idea. Random crossroads with signs. OMG that's so cool!

Well, I've cancelled my plans for today cuz it's wet and I'm working from home anyway, so I have many hours ahead of me with which I can use to test your server. I'm excitement!!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 15, 2011, 16:53:33 PM
Okay. It's not happening this weekend. I did get it to install, interface remotely, and set conditions for worlds. However, I can't get worlds to start up. I have a feeling that running the server software on a virtual machine is messing it up. I'm going to do a full linux install on that box and try again later.

So, at least I know the hardware works and I know how to get it up and running. Just give me a couple weeks to get moved in and get live in tech support.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 15, 2011, 16:58:12 PM
There needs to be a gps hack somewhere....
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 15, 2011, 18:51:37 PM
Just give me a couple weeks to get moved in and get live in tech support.
No problemo. There's a forum on Minecraft Forums for Servers and troubleshooting, in case you hadn't seen it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 15, 2011, 19:40:34 PM
Spiders who climb walls? No thanks.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 15, 2011, 19:53:18 PM
Spiders who climb walls? No thanks.
Most people seem to have embraced the idea. There are a few who intensely dislike it and are whinging on the forums.

It doesn't bother me. I don't mind making it a bit harder. And then, anyone who wants a real challenge can go and live in The Nether. Fuck that place. Seriously. I want its lava. Have you ever gotten up close to a ghast? They're bigger than you think.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 16, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
Fuck the Nether. Fuck it so hard. I turns out my portal is on a floating island, which explain why I'm having suck a hard time getting to the lava. I can just barely make the jump down to a normal chunk, but I can't live long enough to build a bridge back up.

Yeah, I've read through the forums. There's just some basic OS installation stuff I'd like to do that I need some hand on help with. Like I said, I got the server software up and running and I could log in and access the control panel remotely, it was just running on a shell so it had half the memory it needed.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 16, 2011, 18:38:49 PM
Yeah, I've read through the forums. There's just some basic OS installation stuff I'd like to do that I need some hand on help with. Like I said, I got the server software up and running and I could log in and access the control panel remotely, it was just running on a shell so it had half the memory it needed.
Ah, I see. Well, no rush. It's cool that you can set a dedicated server. Lemme know if I can help out.

Back to the Nether: lol. I can empathise. Remember how I said I too was on a floating island, which luckily had a narrow pathway to more substantial land? Well, it turns out that the ghasts blasted so much of the Netherrack around my portal that they opened up enough land beneath that in the Nether for a newer, perhaps more correlated in space. This meant that the next time I returned, all the furnaces, storage and workbench I'd left near the first portal were wayyyy above me. I had to tower back up from some seriously reshaped land. It's so hard to judge distance when everything looks the same.

Anyway, I've learned a few things about surviving in the Nether.
1) Stay out of sight: tunnel through the land. Tunnel anywhere to get out of sight of ghasts. Just tunnel, tunnel, tunnel.
2) Build with stone: ghast fireballs can't destroy it.
3) Once you've established a base of safety, replace some of your stone walls with glass for optimum viewing.

I haven't spent much time there, though. It's not easy survive when ghasts can destroy the very land around you so readily. I don't have much luck hitting their fireballs back at them, either, but with some practice, it'd be the most awesome way to travel through the Nether.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 16, 2011, 21:01:02 PM
This is the best implementation of note blocks that I've seen so far. It's Billie Jean and it has pretty good timing.
*sigh* I'm a musician but I am not a programmer. I've been messing around with redstone since the update but it's very tiring since I don't know what I'm doing.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=136728&p=2021859#p2021859
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 17, 2011, 02:09:16 AM
Those are amazing. As much as I'm dumbfounded by the redstone circuitry guys, that Star Wars one might be the most ingenious. Not only did he use physical distance to represent timing, he made a physical representation of D.S. al coda. Wow. Just wow. I'm going to think about my physical travels in terms of musical terms all day now.

Refrigerator, stove, repeat, refrigerator, stove, repeat, refrigerator, stove, and final ending, dining room.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 18, 2011, 00:37:07 AM
I'm going to think about my physical travels in terms of musical terms all day now.

Refrigerator, stove, repeat, refrigerator, stove, repeat, refrigerator, stove, and final ending, dining room.
LOL! True, yes, that signage was pretty cool ;) He probably designed it out of convenience, but in retrospect it is quite elegant. He actually used physical distance to represent rests because it's more accurate than stop-starting runs in-game. Very well... if that's what impresses you... I shall design something most awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 19, 2011, 08:13:41 AM
I've been thinking about multiplayer beta. ...a lot.

What do you think about establishing a uniform transit system? Maybe not for everything, but at least for N, E, S, W roads. Here's a few features I was thinking of.
- I'm assuming making it out of cobblestone only makes sense.
- Raised a few blocks to accommodate boat travel.
- Two cart lanes. One for towards the spawn, one for away. We'll have to fight over whether traffic keeps right or left.
- Water lane? I don't know if that's a good idea or a cool idea. Maybe neither.
- Distance markers. Some sort of easily identifiable marking for every hundredth meter. A line of wood instead of stone? Also, a sign telling you how far you are from the spawn. Signs on uniform sides of the road facing a uniform direction.
- A different material on the right or left of the road so you always know if you're heading towards or away from the spawn.

Here's what I was thinking it'd probably look like.
C=Cobblestone
U=Whatever else is most abundant
T=Track
S=Sign

CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
UUUTUUUTUUS - 100th Meter
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
CCCTCCCTCCU
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 19, 2011, 10:35:24 AM
Wow, that is specific. I love it.

Of course, traffic keeps to the left. LOL, no, I don't care. I like that you've allowed some space between the tracks, in case we need it in the future.

I love water travel. I don't know if we'll need a water lane once we develop a rail system. At the very least, raising the tracks a few blocks to allow boats to pass when needed is an absolutely awesome idea.

I will not lie—I hate the look of cobblestone-only constructions. I like cobblestone-accented constructions. Could we pretend we're master stonesmiths who can easily smelt cobblestone back into smooth stone?

Also, is one block considered one metre? So 100 blocks = 100 metres?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 19, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
I like that you've allowed some space between the tracks, in case we need it in the future.

I love water travel. I don't know if we'll need a water lane once we develop a rail system. At the very least, raising the tracks a few blocks to allow boats to pass when needed is an absolutely awesome idea.

Yeah, I was thinking maybe ultimately doing this.

CCCTCWCTCCU
CCCTCWCTCCU
CCCTCWCTCCU

The nice thing is you can always build it out of the simplest materials to start and add to it as you go. Speaking of, maybe it should be even taller, so we can build under it for things like supporting canals. So you could ultimately end up with something like this.

(Vertical cross section)

T=Track
C=Main building material
U=Secondary building material
B=Water
G=Glass
A=Lava
_= Sea level

. . . T. . .T. . .
GGCCCBCCCGU
GACCCCCCCAG
GGCCCCCCCGG
.
.
.
____________



I will not lie—I hate the look of cobblestone-only constructions. I like cobblestone-accented constructions. Could we pretend we're master stonesmiths who can easily smelt cobblestone back into smooth stone?

If you mine the coal, I'll gladly leave you chests full of cobblestone to smelt.

Also, is one block considered one metre? So 100 blocks = 100 metres?

That's what I was assuming. I think someone must have planted the idea of equating blocks to meters in my head. I don't remember where I read it though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 19, 2011, 11:23:11 AM
I've heard metres mentioned many times in videos or on the forums. I can only assume they mean 1M = 1 block.

P.S. I've attached your description as a graphic. Like-a-dat?

I could probably smelt all that stone ;)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 19, 2011, 12:15:09 PM
Oh god. It's perfect.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 19, 2011, 17:16:48 PM
That's quite cool. It'd look very civilised, considering the natural setting of Minecraft. Do you think the water canal should be two metres wide to avoid side collisions? We would have to cut into any mountains in our way. Very nice.


And yeah, I probably would smelt all of that stone. I hate cobblestone that much.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 19, 2011, 18:23:23 PM
Good call on the width.

Also, maybe it's better to figure out where the torches go for now, as I don't expect lava to be that prevelent at first.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 19, 2011, 22:25:34 PM
Good call on the width.

Also, maybe it's better to figure out where the torches go for now, as I don't expect lava to be that prevelent at first.
Ta. I wouldn't sell the Nether short so quickly. It might be tough, but a good week in-game should provide enough resources to both visit the Nether and built a little fort from which we could sortie and retrieve some lava. Although, do you realise just how much water and lava we'd need for a project like this? If we made every tile a spring (i.e. a new lava spring each metre), we'd need hundreds upon hundreds of buckets of lava.

I'm excited.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 20, 2011, 01:47:31 AM
That's why I was thinking of torches first. just to get it laid out. Then we can come back and add stuff.

I see this thing being built in stages.

First stage - Lay out 2x7 cobblestone foundation (2x8 if we double the canal width)
Second stage - Top off with stone
Third stage - Add tracks
Fourth stage - Add signage
Fifth stage - Add glass and wood.
Sixth stage - Add water
Seventh stage - Add lava (remove temporary torches)

That way it's usable at each stage and keeps becoming more and more useful. I picture a completed road for a ways out from the spawn and as you move further from the spawn, you hit less completed road, but at least the foundation is there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 20, 2011, 09:45:17 AM
Heh, add wood.

OK, that sounds like a plan. I would love to see a far-spanning network of highways. I'm like you and prefer to play with the game naturally. I don't want to use Cartograph. I don't want to hack in diamond tools for convenience. I don't want to use game glitches (like a water elevator or a minetrack booster). A highway network would let me travel far without getting lost.

Just a note: once my maps start to get bigger (like above 25MB) my game tends to crash more often. I dunno if that'll happen with your server running the game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 20, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
Lets do 3 wide on the water. That'll give us a 1 square center.

Yeah, I'm absolutely into no cheating at all.

Also, I'm all about there being other networks too. I just wanted a uniform NESW network. Oh, should we use different material as the secondary material to label each direction? Sand for south, wood for west, earth (dirt) for East, and gravel for g'north.

I have no idea. I don't have any maps over 10MB. It'll be running on a Pentium4, 1.X GHz, 1GB ram. Not much by today's standards, but she'll do the job. Also, we're installing the MineOS Linux build on it, so it won't be doing anything except running Minecraft.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 20, 2011, 11:18:12 AM
Good, 3 wide water is good. So if I understand rightly, a road marked by sand would be south of the spawn point, wood west of the spawn point, etc? Do we all spawn at the same place or do we each have unique spawn points?

Even assuming road lengths of hundreds of metres, we should be able to find enough sand and gravel to fulfil our needs.

Now, on to a question of style. Are we going to restrict ourselves to a feeling in particular? Or build any which way our whims whirl us?

[edit] I just looked at MineOS. That's awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 20, 2011, 12:20:52 PM
Exactly what I was thinking.

I hadn't really thought of style. I guess I'm assuming that we'll have enough room to do whatever we want. Maybe we should find a way to stake out areas for styles?  Like, "everything anywhere near this castle has to sort of fit in with the castle. If you're not okay with that go somewhere else."? I don't know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 20, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
So how do you reckon until we can play on your server?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 20, 2011, 14:37:13 PM
We're moving Saturday. I don't know when the internets will be hooked up. For sure before the end of the month.

I did a mock up of the road just to see if there were any kinks. It's actually surprisingly easy to build. This took me about an hour to do no glass or stone made ahead of time, but all the raw materials where at hand.

The base level (4 meters up), is easy to place at sea level. I was most worried about that one. If you get a big open flat space you can even do the hold down m2 and "s" and just let it go.

The second level is even easier.

I had a few furnaces going while I was doing that, and I had more than enough stone and glass by the time I go to that step.

Water was easy with the infinite water thing.

Lava was only a pain because of the harvesting part. You can place it from atop the trench, so you don't even have to get down in there.

So... there really aren't any hard parts. Once you have the materials it snaps right together.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on January 20, 2011, 15:38:07 PM
I'm really starting to worry about both of you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 20, 2011, 15:52:23 PM
I'm really starting to worry about both of you.
Are you so bored at work that you would actually look at this thread?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 20, 2011, 16:00:47 PM
So... there really aren't any hard parts. Once you have the materials it snaps right together.
Nice. It looks surprisingly highway-ish.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 21, 2011, 16:23:54 PM
I love you for this, I also worry about you also. Warcraft MMO got NOTHING on you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 21, 2011, 20:58:13 PM
Show me your EPIC thread on the Minecraft forums

In particular, the World Tree in the first post on that thread and the Clocktower of Cartesian Alignment.


I love you for this, I also worry about you also. Warcraft MMO got NOTHING on you.
It's just something fun to do.. If we get bored, we'll move on to new fun things.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 22, 2011, 03:54:49 AM
Cider, Hades, come play with us. Forever and ever and ever...

Seriously though, it's just a different medium for creativity. Instead of painting or sculpting, we're building virtual worlds. I used to make giant life sized piñatas in my living room, but my roommates got pissed. This is just a less resource sapping, space taking, mess making, roommate piss offing channeling of that creative energy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 22, 2011, 21:02:24 PM
I saw this on Notch's development blog. Very amusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFrgDPCgGA&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 23, 2011, 01:37:51 AM
Hahahaha. Dispensers are going to be fun.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 23, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
I didn't even realise you could make a flaming arrow!

Also, Superman, I found what you were looking for. Mathematically perfect spheres. Some dude wrote a script that generates the templates for each level. He has listed them, premade, from a diameter of 1 to a diameter of 128. Awesome, eh?

The images are pixel-accurate, so you'll need to be able to zoom in.

Also, Minecrafter's jokes. Sadly, somewhat depressing.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 23, 2011, 17:27:35 PM
Yes! I want to build a domed building over the spawn. That'll help a ton.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on January 24, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
I'm really starting to worry about both of you.
Are you so bored at work that you would actually look at this thread?
Yes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 25, 2011, 16:23:38 PM
Hahaha best one - if you have a 100 ft tower in front your house so you don't get lost, you might be a minecrafter
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 25, 2011, 17:07:07 PM
Internet was hooked up yesterday. We're trying to get the server set up right now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 25, 2011, 17:07:16 PM
Yeahhh, I liked that one ;) Oo, server!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 26, 2011, 00:25:20 AM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/4hr28.jpg)

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on January 26, 2011, 15:38:36 PM
Pigggggg
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 26, 2011, 16:30:15 PM
Server is up.

Sorry about the name. I didn't make it up.

babyjesus.dontexist.net
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 27, 2011, 00:03:37 AM
babyjesus.dontexist.net
Aww.. does that mean we lose two of our Minecrafters?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: The Pamasaurus on January 27, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
Someone needs to convince me to play this, I think. I don't know anything about it.

Do I have to download something? Will I become insane like you two?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 27, 2011, 03:10:29 AM
To answer your last question first, yes, but it's glorious insanity.

I think it did jump to $15 now, but you can play the classic version for free to at least get a feel for it. There are no enemies, the world is finite, and all bocks are free. It'll give you a feel for the basic gameplay though.

In the game we're playing, there are more game elements that add to the game. Enemies come out at night and you have to build shelter to hide from them. You have to mine out any blocks that you want to build with. If you want a sword, you have to go chop up a tree, then cut it into boards, then turn that into sticks, then use those sicks as the handle to put a wood or stone blade on. The best part is now we're set up with multi so we can help each other out.

So yeah, I guess I suggest trying out the classic version and watching a few Youtube videos.

Personally, I think it's more than worth the money. I've spend far less time on games I've paid a lot more for.

Pianoman - I really hope not. I asked if we could just list it as the ip or something, but I didn't understand his reason for why not. My only offering is that you only have to type it in once. For the record, I do think it's pretty tasteless.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on January 27, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
I thought that Minecraft was something I should stay away from, just live vicariously through you two on this thread, but I just realised that a huuuuuuuuuuuge gap has opened in my diary, like a 7 year long gap, and so I reckons in February, I'ma going to sacrifice my life to the gods of Minecraft.  I thought I'd let you know now so you can get all excited about it - it's like the real life equivalent of a Robert Downey Jnr movie coming out.   Seriously.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 27, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
it's like the real life equivalent of a Robert Downey Jnr movie coming out.   Seriously.
At first, I just thought it was like a Ben Stiller movie coming out, but now that you've set me straight, OMG OMG OMG.

About the bad server name... *sigh*

@Pam: Indeed, you will go slightly insane. But only for about two weeks. Then you'll calm down. The game is pretty cheap, and if you like what it offers, it's easily worth the price. If you want some convincing, you can watch the Good Game review at http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/episodes/date_2010_Monday20September2010.htm — there's a link straight to the Minecraft review segment. It convinced me to buy the game immediately, which I have never done before.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 27, 2011, 12:49:55 PM
I have the spawn point pretty well laid out. I'm just putting down the finished stone top. I accidently did an extra layer of cobblestone. The roads are started off and ready to go.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 27, 2011, 12:58:19 PM
I have the spawn point pretty well laid out. I'm just putting down the finished stone top. I accidently did an extra layer of cobblestone. The roads are started off and ready to go.
OooOOoOOO! Excitement! I'm busy working today but I'll steal some time to drop in.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 27, 2011, 15:49:06 PM
Power just went out in the whole neighborhood. Server down until morning.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 27, 2011, 17:18:54 PM
Power just went out in the whole neighborhood. Server down until morning.
LOL, an auspicious start.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 27, 2011, 23:38:06 PM
I just watched a very nice video. The song makes it nice for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ot39sgEMic
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 28, 2011, 02:33:38 AM
The power came back on overnight. I restarted the server this morning, but there's some sort of problem with the IPs. All the machines in the house gave themselves new numbers. So it's running, but I'm not sure you can get on it right now. No idea how much work was lost. Luckily my roommate is also my live in IT, so he should be able to fix it later tonight.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 28, 2011, 11:33:56 AM
Sounds like everything was lost in the crash. He's figuring out a better back up system and everything should be back up soon. Go ahead and try logging in again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 28, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
Aww, all your work for nothing.

Anyway, I'm unable to connect. Yesterday, while the server was down, it took a long time for the connection to fail (so I'm assuming it was just timing out). Today, the connection is refused within about 3 seconds, and I receive a message (screenshot attached).
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 28, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
Okay. Maybe he's not done. It sounded like he was prety much done when I talked to him. I'll update when I get home.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 28, 2011, 15:18:28 PM
Up again. He just didn't forward it to the external IP.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 28, 2011, 16:15:02 PM
I logged in and everyone went away. I'm not that ugly.

[edit] Here's the chunk error I was talking about. Screenshot attached. See that gaping hole? It went right down to the bedrock. I guess it was just my Minecraft trying to catch up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 29, 2011, 01:21:14 AM
I like multiplayer :)

I added 768 cobblestone to the chest. I also started a mine shaft not far from the spawn point and found some diamonds.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 29, 2011, 02:01:34 AM
Pianoman and I had great adventures of fighting off hoards of zombies... and me dying. Fending off attacks from skeletons... and me dying. Fucking creepers sneaking up behind me and blowing me and all my work to dust.  ...yes, good times.

Seriously though. It was a blast. I love that this is finally up and going. My roommate and I started playing and then Pianoman jumped on right after. Then our downstairs neighbors came up unexpectedly and we had to go be social. My roommate yelled at Pianoman and then demanded that if we weren't back before it got dark, Pianoman had to build a dirt cocoon around him. We came back up and sure enough, my roommate was buried in dirt.

Thanks for all the cobblestone. I'm going to call that any chests near the spawn area should be for communal use. Dump any dirt, sand, gravel, and cobblestone you don't want. Then, anyone who wants to can use the cobblestone to work on the roads, and smelt some glass and stone. If you want to keep you diamonds, iron, and netherrack to yourself, just throw a chest in an obviously private house and I think everyone we have playing will be able to respect that it belongs to you.

It's Friday, I'm not sure how much I'll be on this weekend to finish up that spawn area and start off those roads. If you find a boat load of coal and wanted to start smelting some stone, that'd be awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 29, 2011, 11:15:05 AM
Oh, yes! The bloody creeper sneaking up on us. I took a screenshot (attached). In between me trying to warn Superman (ScoutX) and his maniacal laughter afterwards was the freaking creeper destroying us. I could see that he was facing the opposite direction, so all he saw was my awesome warning of fcreerpr before hearing SssSSsssBOOM!

I'd be so game to try playing this on the Hard difficulty level if it wasn't for the lag. I can't kill creatures without taking lots of damage. When I destroy a block, it takes about half a second for its remains to pop out, like cobblestone from mining stone, so you can imagine trying to fight a creeper. I swing my sword, for half a second nothing happens, then I see that it has been pushed back by my hit, and then I explode.

@Superman: I'll wait until you've started your road project. I won't interfere with your spawn point build because I have no idea what you're doing :P I'm going to set off on a voyage for a few minecraft days to find a desert, then come back with a shatload of sand. I've taken a couple hundred from the local beaches, which I don't really like defacing.

I'm pretty laid back about the whole sharing thing. I'll add lots of stuff to the communal chests, and anyone is free to visit my shaft and even to mine from it. I've exposed a lot of ore that I haven't bothered to mine out yet. I've decided to turn my mine shaft into a little home for now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 29, 2011, 13:55:24 PM
Hahaha! I love that you saved that. I don't know why I couldn't just wait for the sun to come up.

I wonder if that whole halfway across the world thing is causing the lag. It might just be our shitty Comcast. Though I connect okay. Hopefully it's at least playable.

Okay, I'll try to get the beginnings of the road all laid out as soon as I can. It makes sense to me, but I can understand how it could be confusing to others.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 30, 2011, 01:16:50 AM
I thought it was particularly memorable to hold on to my panicked warning :)

Comcast = your Internet Service Provider?

No doubt, it would be the distance. It's OK—whadya gonna do boud it? I saw lanky today and he mentioned that another friend of his started a server, which he's been playing Minecraft on for two days. I moaned at him and told him to join us.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 30, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
I went off on a voyage to discover deserts. I hit a snag when I couldn't get out of the boat, so I had to destroy my vessel just to escape its confines. Soon afterward, I was frozen in space, vibrating like a dildo, so I logged out. I haven't been able to log back in.

 :'(
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 30, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Yeah, we think the router isn't enough to handle two of us playing and the game going at the same time. It's okay most of the time. I think when Jamie downstairs logs on to the iternet too, it pushes it over the edge. We're picking up a new better one tomorrow.

Lanky. Quit being lame. Come play.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 30, 2011, 12:25:36 PM
Yeah, we think the router isn't enough to handle two of us playing and the game going at the same time. It's okay most of the time. I think when Jamie downstairs logs on to the iternet too, it pushes it over the edge. We're picking up a new better one tomorrow.
Ah, I entrust my multiplayer future to you, then. I did manage to log in again just now, but I eventually timed out.

Lanky. Quit being lame. Come play.
Yeah, come and play in our sandbox.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
It definitely only haopens when other people are hogging bandwidth. Router will fix it.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 31, 2011, 12:25:14 PM
It definitely only haopens when other people are hogging bandwidth. Router will fix it.
Didja get your new one yet?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2011, 15:35:28 PM
No everything closes early on Sundays and we didn't make it in time. However, my neighbor is the only one using the internet right now. Go for it.

When you do get that weird super lag stuff, try just waiting 10 and logging back in. That's been doing it for me. Hopefully we'll have the new router in this time tomorrow, so hopefully that's unneeded advice.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 31, 2011, 15:38:35 PM
When you do get that weird super lag stuff, try just waiting 10 and logging back in. That's been doing it for me. Hopefully we'll have the new router in this time tomorrow, so hopefully that's unneeded advice.
Oh, I didn't realise you were experiencing the same troubles. Maybe it wasn't because I'm halfway around the world.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2011, 15:47:14 PM
Oh yeah. When my roommate and I are on at the same time it lags out on us like that now and then. Again, the assumption is that someone downstairs is streaming movies or something at the same time. When you jump on at the same time as us it seems even worse. Have you had much of the same problem when no one else is logged in?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 31, 2011, 15:55:51 PM
Nope. I'm on now and I don't have the same problem. I also just tested boating and I didn't have as much trouble disembarking, so it was probably the lag issue.

P.S. I have returned with 800 sand~!

P.P.S. Nice work on the road!!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2011, 16:08:31 PM
Yeah. Like two minutes after you were having boat issues that day, we both lagged out. Well here's to getting that fixed.

Thanks. It's coming along even better than I hoped. I should probably lay some rail soon. Oh, and next big thing is to get a building over the spawn and move the chests in there.

Thanks for the sand! Now I just need to stay on top of collecting wood so we have enough charcoal to make our glass and smoothstone. God knows we have enough buckets of lava. I have a whole other lake of the stuff on the top level of my mine too as soon as we start emptying those.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 31, 2011, 17:37:32 PM
Is your server running Minecraft Beta 1.2_02? Cuz I just mined two lapis lazuli and I only got one blue dye from each. You're supposed to get something like … ah, crap, I just read the wiki.

Quote from: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lapis_Lazuli_(Ore)
Initially, it only dropped one dye per block. Jens Bergensten acknowledged that the ore was too rare[1] and increased the drop rate to 4-8 in the 1.2_02 update. However, due to a bug SMP servers still only drop one dye.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 31, 2011, 18:51:52 PM
The Ancient Golem
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 01, 2011, 01:52:00 AM
That is phenomenal.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 01, 2011, 06:33:32 AM
A dodgy sounding organisation has taken to selling a Minecraft world exploring/editing tool for the iPhone and iPad. The product, copyrighted by—get this—Compu Global Hyper Mega Corporation, doesn't seem to have obtained any permission from Mojang. Worse yet, it doesn't even seem to work properly.

Lifesnoozer: Seen this? Seems to be a really crappy iphone client for minecraft.
Jeb_: Yeah, we've sent our banhammer its way

I looked at the seller Robots & Pencils' website. They call themselves angel investors.

P.S. I added another 2000 cobblestone to the communal chests :D :handsup:

UPDATE (from the seller): Our Apple developer account got hacked! Suddenly none of our apps were available for purchase! Minecraft World Explorer pissed someone off.

*snicker* sucked in.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 01, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
They were charging money for a ripoff of Minecraft? Smaaaaart.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on February 01, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
Compu Global Hyper Mega Corporation
Was it seriously called this?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 01, 2011, 10:02:05 AM
Compu Global Hyper Mega Corporation
Was it seriously called this?
Indeed, it was! Full of lulz, is it not?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 01, 2011, 21:32:09 PM
Good times.

Superman has created the first intersection of the Great Roads and is currently building a dome atop climbing walls which surround the intersection. It will be magnificent to view from afar.

I am growing a gigantic tree, about four storeys tall and thick as a giant's gonad. The Gods will pick its ambrosia and look upon its great canopy from above.

Also, a zombie pushed me off my tree and I dieded. What an arsehole.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 01, 2011, 22:43:40 PM
Someone built a spaceship. A bit long-winded, but very impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFzYNUvwva8
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 01:36:42 AM
Pianoman's tree is amazing.

So is his mine. He told me where it was once and I went northeast instead of northwest. I found a lit cave and I was like, "really? This is what you're so excited about?" I get it now. I can't wait to get rid of my lava pool so I can get up and running like his.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 08:08:54 AM
It is Northeast of the spawn point :P Although, I'll admit, it's hard to find. That's why I started growing the Great Oak. You can't miss the kind of tree Zeus would use as a baseball bat.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Obviously I have no grasp of the directions. I thought the ocean was south, the forest was east, and inland was north.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 11:12:08 AM
Sounds like you only had East-West reversed. The ocean is South but the forest is West.

I like your tiered mine. Did you make it like that in order to harvest cobblestone? I designed mine to achieve 100% rock exposure with the minimum amount of mining, although it still generates thousands of pieces of cobblestone anyway.

I'm still not messing with your domed spawn building, but I think I can start to continue your work on the Roads now. This is gonna be sweet.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
I don't understand how that combinations of directions is possible. I'm obviously still confused.

Yeah, mine is the same concept, just more crude and lots of space for cart tracks when I get that far.

If you'll start expanding the roads, that'd be awesome. My roommate has set up a second base because he got lost. He could use the landmark.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 11:38:32 AM
Oh, shit. Fuck. I'm a dufus. Yeah, you're right, my mine is Northwest. No, wait. It's Southeast. The Sun rises from that direction.

Damn it. Sorry. You were right all along. LOL, so you found one of my lit caves, huh? I'm glad you weren't impressed.

LMAO! Does your roommate know where he is now? Or is he still at his second base cuz he dunno how to get back? If he doesn't know how, he should go find some redstone and iron and build himself a compass. This is why we take a compass with us when we voyage!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 13:15:06 PM
A compass only helps if you know where you started. Orienteering 101.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 13:43:29 PM
A compass only helps if you know where you started. Orienteering 101.
In real life, yes. In Minecraft, the compass always points to the spawn point. Not North.

P.S. I tried logging on around 6-6:30pm your time but I kept timing out. I'm guessing everyone was using the net.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 14:45:32 PM
I didn't know that. Interesting.

No. The whole thing is down for maintainance. I'm not sure why he unhooked everything while we went to the store, but he's setting up the new router right now. I looked through the specs on it and compared it to what we were using before. I see what he was talking about now. This really should help a lot. I'll leave a post when everything is back up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 15:06:30 PM
Oo, sexy. So how come the new router should be better?

Yah, in Minecraft, it's easy to tell which way is North (unless you're me). So having a compass that always points to the spawn point allows you to set up a home there and then travel as far as you want without having to worry about how to get home. The problem is finding places that aren't the spawn point. That's when you need good landmarks and a memory.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 02, 2011, 15:34:17 PM
Lankyland needs a 12 step group for you lot. Super's server is like a crackhouse.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 15:41:46 PM
This is more like a 30 minute conversation stretched out over 4 pages.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2011, 16:41:23 PM
I don't even know what's going on. The ISP has to come flip a switch now? We've been delayed until tomorrow. You'll have to satisfy your addiction somewhere else for a bit I guess. Sorry.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 16:51:17 PM
LOL, I'm not addicted. Are you? I can wait.

get the bugs off me get the bugs off me get them off me they're on my skin where's a knife cut them out cut them out better better red is better blood is good bleeding keeps the minecraft bugs away cut them cut them no more bugs no more
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 02, 2011, 20:44:36 PM
Very interesting suggestion for magnets.

Take a few minutes to read the whole thread. There are some interesting ideas in there, such as craftable magnets, magnetised tracks, electromagnetism, reversing the polarity of a magnet using redstone…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 03, 2011, 01:24:31 AM
Oh yeah, I play all night in my dreams anyway. I can go a few days without the real thing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 03, 2011, 09:15:56 AM
Short Minecraft news report: pretty good ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8oCLyZWwik&feature=player_embedded#
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 03, 2011, 13:04:01 PM
I hear the internets are back up. No idea about Minecraft. Give it a shot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 03, 2011, 13:43:29 PM
Nope, not up yet. I'll give it another go later. Like, 3am your time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 03, 2011, 14:31:53 PM
Yeah, I just got home. Don't see anyone about.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 03, 2011, 15:20:05 PM
It's up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 03, 2011, 16:09:03 PM
Minecraft is still in Beta. There are still bugs. A bug like logging off… and returning to find yourself buried beneath the world. Luckily Superman came to my rescue, swooping in and promptly getting lost. Total team work. Unfortunately, it seems that my shaft is gone, although my massive tree is still up.

Dang.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 03, 2011, 17:53:05 PM
Yeah. I lost a chunk of road and some of my building turned from stone to dirt, but that seems to be it. Pianoman got the most screwed by that one I think.

Road rebuilt, glass set, lava poured, track laid. That should be what the final product looks like.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 04, 2011, 02:20:21 AM
And we keep learning as we go. What we're using right now is the autosave file. It stores info on the ramdisk and backs that up at regular intervals. We can see now how well that worked out. Not too bad, all things considered, but not perfect.

I have the dashboard forwarded out now, so I can do saves from anywhere. I'm just going to hit it randomly throughout the day, but if you just finished a big project, let me know and I'll hit it again. The chances of losing power or internet access again is pretty slim, but there's no harm in spamming the hell out of the backup button anyway.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 04, 2011, 08:30:14 AM
It's ok, really. It wasn't a major construction. It was just a tidy hole in the ground with some mansion-ism near the surface.

LOL, saving does seem to be a problem, doesn't it ;) There are a few Get Satisfaction threads regarding the loss of chunk information in spite of saving. A whole lot of people have commented on what they're doing, mostly stuff I don't understand because I have no experience running a Minecraft server. But it would suck to build a whole section of your road only to have it missing when we come back.

You gotta admit, my missing mineshaft is kinda funny. And I hadn't even mined out most of the ore! I had only exposed it. I wonder if all my branches are still there...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 04, 2011, 08:33:49 AM
Yeah, it seems to have filled in some pretty arbitrary stuff. It's weird that it filled in parts of your mine but saved the tree.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 04, 2011, 15:43:48 PM
Yes, yes, our internets are down again. I had "pleasant" conversation with the ISP today. The conversation my roommate refused to have. We're not paying for internet this month.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on February 04, 2011, 15:46:50 PM
On behalf of all inept socially avoidant housemates, I salute you.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 04, 2011, 15:50:43 PM
Yes, yes, our internets are down again. I had "pleasant" conversation with the ISP today. The conversation my roommate refused to have. We're not paying for internet this month.
Oh nooooes… lol. What happened?

P.S. Avoidant, spider?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on February 04, 2011, 15:59:47 PM
That's my new way of describing someone who holds an irrational fear of causing a fuss with any customer service reps at any company that one has business with.  Every avoidant flatmate needs a Superman.  Example: my Supermens got my toilet fixed. 
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 04, 2011, 16:33:49 PM
There's a battle between the service people that are trying to shut down the previous evicted residents' internets and the other ones trying to turn ours on. Our guys are coming out tomorrow again.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 04, 2011, 18:21:22 PM
There's a battle between the service people that are trying to shut down the previous evicted residents' internets and the other ones trying to turn ours on. Our guys are coming out tomorrow again.
Yeah, but I want juice. Did you argue with them? Do they realise how stupid they are?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 01:37:21 AM
Yes, like I said, we're not paying for internets this month.

Do they realize how stupid they are? I'm not sure if they care one way or the other. They're the only game in town. Everyone has to go through them. Capitalism doesn't work on utilities. There's no motivation to do any better.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 06:23:52 AM
Up again. Theres a a backup point from yesterday and I just did one now. I can't log in to look, so if you do before me and anything is weird, just let me know and I'll roll it back to yesterday's.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 08:33:07 AM
Nothing seems weird that wasn't already weird. I.e. I have a missing chunk, but that only seems to be visible to me, and not actually there. I've twice tried to take a screenshot of it when it happens but my Minecraft crashes.

You know, I just remembered, I had at least 12 diamonds in my chest at home… I wonder if they're still there! I would be very sad if they were gone. I spent a lot of time mining.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 08:35:45 AM
If you are missing any and want some, I have a bunch in my private stash.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 08:39:17 AM
Thanks. I don't need 'em yet. Also, it seems like someone has been mining around in my mine—either that or there is weirdness.

Since my method was uniform, I can backtrack from the torches I placed and relocate the original shaft location I should be able to reclaim it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
When I first re-dug the tunnel between our mines, I used a different route. You might be seeing that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 08:45:21 AM
When I first re-dug the tunnel between our mines, I used a different route. You might be seeing that.
Eegh. No, it wasn't you… I saw that other tunnel. The weirdness is inside my mine, and I don't think it was a person, because now there are random water sources coming from the sides of some of my branch walls. I tell you, this is the weirdest error I've seen.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 08:51:58 AM
I was plugging up some weird water glitches last time we were on. Strange. I guess that's just the buggy nature of the multiplayer version?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 08:57:04 AM
I guess that's just the buggy nature of the multiplayer version?
No doubt. I just dug a 1x1 tunnel back up to the surface. Let's see if I can reclaim my goodies ;)

UPDATE: Just found some random patches of missing snow near my old shaft's surface.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 09:08:06 AM
Weird. Snow manifested itself on the spawn point before.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
Ah well. I'm digging out my old mineshaft now, so here's hoping.

You remember I mentioned the other day that my laptop was too hot to play? Well, here are some screenshots of what Minecraft is doing to my laptop in this ridiculously hot and humid weather.

Screenshot 1 is just after starting Minecraft.
Screenshot 2 is after about 20 minutes of running.
Screenshot is after about 50 minutes of running.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 09:23:20 AM
Well there's your problem. Someone sneaked some malicious software onto your computer. I can suggest a few guys that are experts at removing Vista.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 05, 2011, 09:56:03 AM
LOL, do you really think a different OS would cool things down a bit?

UPDATE: I found my storage room. I only half-counted diamonds—I have 23 stored! Anyway, the storage room is completely intact, except that there's now a waterfall in it. It's as if someone came in and filled only my main shaft with stone, leaving everything else untouched. Apart from the random water sources everywhere.

UPDATE 2: Oh, ok, not everything is untouched. I lost my home. But I'm glad storage is safe.

UPDATE 3: No, wait! My mansion was still there, behind several layers of stone! Hahahahahahah /maniacal laughter
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 05, 2011, 10:18:04 AM
No. I just like making fun of Vista.

That is such a weird glitch. Well, yay for still having all your crap.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 06, 2011, 00:47:34 AM
Do a youtube search for minecraft interstate. I watched version 3.0 and version 4.0.

Also, this Minecraft highway has switches at every intersection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CphO3XKiCJs&feature=related

Finally, Rube Goldberg-esque Minecraft gizmo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTS9Z6PFh0
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 07, 2011, 16:15:53 PM
Holy balls Pianoman. Your tree is amazing. I threw some bonemeal on your saplings to urge them along. I've seen people try that before, but I've never seen anyone able to get the effect down.

Sooo, I roofed off the spawn. It seemed like a good idea. However, it had the unexpected side effect of spawning me on the roof about half the time. I guess the solution is to just keep jumping through the oculus until it spawns you inside?

*edit*

It seems like if you jump into the side where the water goes out further, you get the water save from your jump. Maybe this won't be an issue once I get the roads going out in all directions.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 07, 2011, 18:02:40 PM
[edit] In case you didn't know, you can take screenshots by pressing F2. It'll save a much smaller .png to the screenshots folder in your .minecraft folder. You can also hold F1 while taking screenshots to temporarily make your arm invisible.

*spits chips* I completely forgot about using bonemeal as fertiliser. I've just been patiently waiting for each sapling to take root and grow to join its brothers-in-wood. As you can see, I'm starting to create some mighty branches to the sides. I'm glad you're impressed, as I think it's coming along nicely. I have no blueprint; I'm just shaping it as I go along.

It's funny that you just posted because I came here to boast about your awe-inspiring Spawn Dome. When I first logged in to see you'd started a sandstone roof, I was impressed. Then I log in today to see that you've not only completed the dome but have also added a lava fountain atop! I'm floored. Inside, it's so majestic, like I'm visiting a cathedral. I continued building your road a little to the North (I'm no longer confused about the cardinal points) and have been mining out the ores from my underground branches. Aside from that, I've been shaping my great tree during the day.

Looking at the pic you posted of my tree, I got the idea that perhaps I could hollow out the inside and put a ladder leading to a treehouse at the top. I'm not sure. I originally conceived of a beautiful landmark, so I kinda like the idea of it just being there for the sake of it being there.

Anyway, without further ado, here's the pic that I came to post.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2011, 01:22:58 AM
I know taking pictures that way is supposed to work, but the folder doesn't exist on my computer and when I do a search for the filename it gives me, nothing comes up. It's weird.

I have lots of bones stored up in the communal supply room. Building at night has been drawing far too many monsters to me and every morning I come down and loot their charred remains. I'm starting to think we have it set to a really hard mode or something. There are way, way too many hostile mobs.

I absolutely built with a blueprint. Winging it wasn't working with what I wanted to build (a Pantheon inspired structure with quadrilateral symmetry and a giant lava spire sticking out of the oculus), so I sat down in paint and laid it all out. The horizontal cross section is just a circle and the vertical cross section is just a half circle atop that. It makes mine a little less impressive. I like the tree a lot more. I love the idea of sicking a staircase up the middle and putting a house among the branches. That would be amazing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 08, 2011, 08:34:26 AM
Haha, perhaps self-criticism is coming to the fore. We each think our own creation pales in comparison. If you like my tree, then I think you might like what I'm starting in my mansion now.

Treehouses do feel cool. I started to build one in my old SSP and it was nice to walk on tree trunks and leaves. If I built a treehouse, I wouldn't mind some help. I'd need planning to take advantage of whatever canopy I end up with. You know, like, maybe hanging foliage draped over the outside of a window.

Your Pantheonic dome rocks! I totally got that religious building vibe. And the Road is actually much more impressive than I'd imagined, mainly because of the lava. You can see farrrrr because it's like there's sunlight right next to the tracks.

P.S. Apparently, here's where the .minecraft directory should be on a few different OSs:
Windows 7:
C:\Users\Your Windows Account Name Here\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\saves

Windows XP:
%appdata%\Roaming\.minecraft\saves

Mac:
/Users/Your User Name Here/Library/Application Data/minecraft
/Users/Your User Name Here/Library/Application Support/minecraft/saves

Linux:
/.minecraft


P.P.S. I don't think difficulty affects the number of mobs spawning. The difficulty level affects how much damage they deal and perhaps their own health level.

Quote from: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Difficulty
No setting impacts the quantity of hostile mobs that spawn, including peaceful.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2011, 08:50:27 AM
You have a mansion?

I can certainly help. I can only work on something for a bit before I get bored and move on to something else. That's why everything I'm working on is half done. Having more projects is good for me.

Yes, the roads are turning out nice. I think all that lava will help keep the hostile mobs down too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 08, 2011, 08:58:49 AM
You have a mansion?
Well, you know, my home underground. I'm going to create some kind of underground moss & tree garden with water flowing around. Are you beginning to understand why I identify myself as a Treehugger?

If you wanna add your own branches to the Great Tree, that'd be cool! I really don't mind you guys messing with my stuff, as long as it's good work. Speaking of guys, has your roommate been playing? I haven't seen him since he got lost. He could always just die and respawn near us.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2011, 09:03:17 AM
He might be a bit ADD riddled. He logs in for like 10 minutes and then logs out. It's not Minecraft, he just can't do one thing for any longer than that.

I'd be uncomfortable doing much to the tree without more instruction than that. At least give me an MS paint of about what it looks like now and about how you want it to look eventually.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 09, 2011, 01:32:05 AM
I dug the canal in the center of the spawn a lot deeper. Swan dives off the roof are now OSHA approved.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 09, 2011, 08:23:23 AM
Hahaha. I've never heard of Objective Ministries before, but it has to be satire. ...right? Oh god please let this be satire.

Minecraft, although it is not advertised as a Christian game, is the first Christian game aimed at Secular gamers. And it's working!

There are two branches of Minecraft: Alpha, the main survival game, and Classic, which is more free-form. Both take place in a procedurally generated, natural world made entirely of blocks with low-res textures, like some sort of retro game, only 3D and huge (in Alpha the world goes on forever since it's generated on the fly as you travel.) Blocks can be taken from and added to the world to shape it as the player sees fit, although you need to make tools and gather supplies of blocks to do this in Alpha.

You start above ground in an outdoors environment filled with hills, mountains, oceans, grassy plains, sandy beaches, rocky outcrops, and forests. You can also dig into the ground and find caverns, underground waterfalls, and lava. Even though it's all low-res blocks it's really beautiful!

In Alpha, the player isn't told what to do or given any back-story, but it is clear to those familiar with the Bible that the game takes place in a world much like it was shortly after the Fall. The land is vast and unspoiled by human settlements, but death has entered the world. During the day you gather resources to build shelters and craft supplies. When night falls, demons appear and try to kill you.

At first glance the game doesn't appear overtly Christian, but the more you play the more it become apparent that the goal of its creator (a programmer named Notch) was to teach Biblical wisdom.

Many lessons from the Bible are delivered to the player through intuitive immersion: For example, the player learns through trial and error to build his shelter on solid rock instead of falling sand, much as we should build our lives on the rock of Jesus. This is the same lesson taught in Matthew 7:24-27, however by engaging the player in actively experiencing the parable, the game subtly and effectively reaches Secular gamers who might otherwise reject explicit witnessing.

One of the central lessons comes when the player realizes that the most important thing to craft in the game are torches. Demons can spawn anywhere there is darkness, like at night or in caves. Torches keep this from happening, conveying the importance of light in a dark world. This makes the player more receptive to the good news that Jesus is the light: "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness" (John 12:46) and "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life" (John 8:12).

Just like in real life, wandering around Minecraft in the dark is a sure way to fall victim to demons. Again, this conveys Jesus' teachings: "If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him" (John 11:9-10). The demons' fondness for darkness and spontaneously combusting in sunlight are also Biblically founded: "They are of those that rebel against the light; they know not the ways thereof, nor abide in the paths thereof ... For the morning is to them even as the shadow of death: if one know them, they are in the terrors of the shadow of death" (Job 24:13,17).

In the beginning, the player is fearful of darkness, but soon learns that light provides safety and his fears subside: "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 27:1).

The Biblical themes of solidness of rock and righteousness of light are central to Minecraft's gameplay. Even the most Secular of gamers will have these values instilled in them effortlessly without realizing they are learning the Gospel.

Another Biblical theme is Spiritual Warfare. Eventually the player is able to craft armor and a sword. This is necessary to survive the scariest of the demons, the creeper, which can silently sneak up on you and explode. Unlike other demons, creepers can survive sunlight without burning, teaching the player the value of putting on the Full Armor of God in order to engage demonic powers (Ephesians 6:10-18).

(And back to the theme of light, another enemy, the giant spiders, can also survive in the day. But sunlight makes them become peaceful, showing how the light of Jesus can transform even the most wicked among us.)

To reach the Secular gamers who would never play an explicitly Christian game, Minecraft needs to be subtle and non-threatening, teaching Christian values without scaring off those whose hearts have been hardened by years of anti-Christian conditioning. Still, there are clues to the Christian purpose of the game. The most obvious is the name: Minecraft Alpha. This is of course a reference to Jesus' revelation that He is the Alpha and the Omega (Rev. 22:13). Also, the only animals in the game you can kill for food are pigs. This emphasizes the New Covenant with Jesus where we can now eat delicious ham -- a common ground we share with most Secularized people.

The other branch of Minecraft, Classic, doesn't have demons, darkness, torches, or many other Gospel elements that Alpha has. Instead, you are simply allowed to build whatever you want using an infinite supply of all types of blocks. This branch, based on an earlier version of the game, is free to play online and the multiplayer mode of it has a more social feel, kind of like a chat room where you can build things.

It's this multiplayer mode, in both Alpha and Classic, that's the true strength of Minecraft as not just a Biblical game, but a witnessing platform. Once Secular gamers are hooked on the innovative, open-ended, gameplay and have had many key Biblical values sowed in their minds, then they will be receptive to being approached by Minecraft missionaries in the multiplayer servers. Here is the real beginning of Salvation for these lost gamers, as they discover how the values they learned playing Minecraft apply to the Truth of God's plan for us all.

Minecraft Alpha is still under heavy development, with many more improvements and features planned. You can pre-purchase it now for half off the price of the final version (about $13.50). It's already a hit among Secular gamers and probably the biggest cross-over game on the Christian market today. Even though it is still a work in progress, I'm giving it †††††. It is an excellent game that teaches core Biblical values and represents the future of online Evangelism.

—9.29.2010: Kyle Goldman

Update (11.2.2010): On Sunday a new Minecraft version (1.2.0) was released that increases the urgency of the game's message of Salvation by including the ability to witness Hell first-hand.

(The game's creator, Notch, was originally going to call this realm "Hell", but he thought that would make the Biblical origins of the game too obvious to the religion-averse unsaved gamers he's trying to reach, so he used the euphemism "Nether".)

The Nether (Hell) is presented as a vast underground cavern composed of brimstone with lakes of fire (Rev. 20:10), without light (Mat. 8:12) except for the fires that burn everywhere. Fire is the central theme of this realm. You even travel there by building a portal out of obsidian and lighting it on fire.

The unsaved wander around Hell in constant torment, their corrupted flesh eaten by worms (Mark 9:44) as they wail and purr in madness (Mat. 13:50). Pale demons (Rev. 6:8) patrol the cavernous skies spitting explosive fireballs at you. There is no water here to quench your thirst (Luke 16:24). If you bring some in a bucket and try to use it, it just evaporates.

Minecraft's Biblically accurate vision of Hell is very disturbing and scary and will convince any unsaved person of the necessity of accepting Christ into their hearts before it is too late.

Another new Biblical feature is a fishing minigame (Luke 5:1-11), which adds fish to the already existing loaves of bread as the most reliable sources of sustenance (Mat. 14:13-21, etc.).
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on February 09, 2011, 08:49:18 AM
Hahaha, it's clever whichever way it goes.  And it's kind of a novelty to read about a video game being OK with Christianity... other than the Left Behind game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 09, 2011, 10:25:15 AM
He might be a bit ADD riddled.
I see. That may explain why he screamed at me prior to our introduction.

I'd be uncomfortable doing much to the tree without more instruction than that. At least give me an MS paint of about what it looks like now and about how you want it to look eventually.
LOL, I suppose my vision would help. I didn't want to touch your road until I understood how it was supposed to look. I'll draft something up shortly. I haven't been on for the past couple of days because I'm busy creating a catalogue for the business. I'll be back soon :)


I don't need the Bible to tell me that building on rock is safer than building on sand. While I can assure you that Minecraft isn't converting me to Christianity, it leads to wonder why Notch decided zombies and skeletons would combust in sunlight. I've never heard of that concept before.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 10, 2011, 06:12:14 AM
it leads to wonder why Notch decided zombies and skeletons would combust in sunlight. I've never heard of that concept before.

Because creepers and latently hostile spiders are already hell on earth?

I pulled the road a little further towards your tree. Digging out the road is a lot harder than building it over the water. Also, I keep thinking I can survive at night, and I can't.

Seriously, I've been having huge issues with the number of hostile mobs. I want to flood everything in a kilometer radius in light. Is there a variation in the spawn rate geographically? Maybe our spawn is near a hostile spawn. I'm going a little bit insane trying to avoid them. A creeper spawned on the roof of the spawn and took out part of the dome right as I spawned. Not cool.

Also, I was working with lava and it was every bit as horrible as you could imagine. I took a pit stop between the mine and the storage room to craft some tools. Somehow the bastard got down in there, even though I had just shrunk down that entrance. I heard the hiss behind me, and I instinctively took a swing at him. Only I had a lava bucket in my hand. So I poured lava all over the floor just as he blew me, 3 furnaces, the crafting bench, and 4 double chests to smithereens. Then all my loot, all the chest loot, and all the furnace materials dropped into the lava on the floor and disappeared forever. Mah bukkits! I might have cried just a little bit.

Oh, I visited your base last night. (My mine is finally open all the way to bedrock so it's easy to visit you now.) That is so impressive. You certainly have a flair for design. Much better than my very utilitarian base. I like your storage system too. I'm still thinking about moving the communal chests soon. I might steal that idea.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2011, 09:09:28 AM
 :laughroll:
Yes, but you make me laugh harder. Where to start?

Enemy mobs can get in anywhere that's open. Granted, the less easy it is to move around, the less likely they are to enter a given space (or leave it once they're in there), but an open hole is no defense. In fact, at first I wondered why you left your storage room so open to attack. There was an open hole from the surface which you could just fall through—I'm guessing this is how your creeper got in—and the entrances were wide and open with no doors. Mobs, in their nightly dawdling, could easily dawdle down to your storage room (I got caught off-guard by a skeleton once in there). I guess I just accepted that it was your design and forgot about it. I promise to provide my advice in the future if I see fit :)

I laughed so hard at your little lava story… remember, in the beginning, when a creeper snuck up on us and I tried to warn you, but all I got out was "fcreerpr"? I can picture you panicking, spilling lava everywhere, and instantly realising that the creeper's about to blow up—next to laden chests—and everything's going to go to shit. Man, there were a lot of buckets in there. At 3x iron apiece… that was probably around 150x iron! Well, small comfort, but I saved five of your buckets. I still have them on me from when I was filling up the canal in the South Road.

Actually, recently I noticed five skeleton on a tree at once. It wasn't even a very big tree. Perhaps SMP still sees more bugs than SSP, which is where I think Mojang first repairs them. So you could be right: we may be getting too many mobs spawning. I don't see huge numbers of passive mobs, though, so I don't know. I just don't go out at night because I can't compete with the lag. I've taken to wearing leather armour to give myself a fighting chance. It has helped me survive severals falls from my tree :P

Speaking of creepers fucking up bases, I'm guessing you visited before one of them decided to redecorate my entrance floor. Namely, there isn't one anymore. I logged in, headed towards my future garden room to continue working and saw a bloody creeper standing in the corner. Intelligently I thought, "Ah, he can stay there. Let's go down to the mine instead." Genius move. I had only intended to play for 15 minutes before going to bed. When I soon climbed my ladder back up to my storage room, the creeper was standing right at the portal to my entrance hall. Suffice it to say that I panicked and had two conflicting ideas to escape—go up and go down—which both took control and ended up with me standing right in front of the creeper as he walked toward me. He blew up my 2 furnaces, 4 ladders and a chunk of the surrounding stone and almost the entire glass floor. Not as bad as you. Since I was ready for sleep, I haven't repaired anything yet :P

Thank you for the compliment. I think you'll like my base a lot more once I get my underground Garden of Reflection going. I'm just sculpting out an area at the moment (using Fibonacci numbers) based on how I think it'll feel when complete. No plans again. Feel free to pillage any ideas from my base. I've been influenced by different videos that I've watched and tweaked ideas sometimes.

The Great Tree. The last of my saplings has grown and taken shape within the greater structure of the tree. I removed the scaffolding so I could take a screenshot. I'm actually not so sure how to proceed with it at the moment, so if you have any neat ideas, please share. Perhaps more branches? A passage from my base to the tree from underneath, so we could reach a future treehouse at night in safety?

I like the work we're doing. I know how long it takes to clear a path through hills, so I'll help you out there. Perhaps, given the insane amount of mobs you see, I could try making a mob harvester. You down with that?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 10, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
Well, yes, I know I shouldn't leave it open like that, but it's just temporary and it shouldn't matter. ...until a creeper destroys everything.

I don't think I had that many buckets. Maybe more like 30 and I saved about 10.

I really think I will eventually pretty much illuminate everything a good click from the spawn and then fence it off, so we can have a nice big open safe area to do stuff outside at night.

Oh no, that sucks. Your base is actually pretty. All I have to do is lay down some cobblestone and I'm good to go.

That's a good enough blueprint for me and I'm a fan. I can help with that. Yes, I absolutely think there should be a staircase from your underground base to your tree house.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2011, 11:22:42 AM
Sweet. Now things are really chugging along. I'll help lay out some nightlights.

Cobblestone's too ugly for me… I like a nice-looking base while I'm going around doing my thing.

As for the tree, don't worry if we fuck it up. That's the beauty of Minecraft. We can always grow another tree ;)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 10, 2011, 15:49:40 PM
Minecraft has a.... way that makes te enemies far more scary (to me) than all the resided evil games and the like I've ever played
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 10, 2011, 17:07:27 PM
So very true.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2011, 17:41:30 PM
Minecraft has a.... way that makes te enemies far more scary (to me) than all the resided evil games and the like I've ever played
Silent Hill evoked a sense of horror building around you, which was well done. The main difference is that Minecraft is so open-ended—you're not necessarily looking for trouble but sometimes it just finds you.

They said it best in the Good Game review: "Put quite simply, this is a game that will once again make you afraid of the dark."
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2011, 18:42:48 PM
I forgot to mention I saw your Water Closet.  :laughroll: :win: :win: :win:
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 10, 2011, 20:14:27 PM
Do you guys have a train network setup yet?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2011, 21:26:09 PM
Do you guys have a train network setup yet?
No.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 10, 2011, 23:53:59 PM
Only because we've set up such high standards before laying the actual rail. It's all planned out and the basic setup is there. We just have to slowly extend it out to the rest of the map.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 11, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
You know, looking at my tree now, I think I can see why you like it so much.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 11, 2011, 09:31:08 AM
Ha! You just lost the humility challenge. I win. In your face!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 11, 2011, 09:38:33 AM
Ha! You just lost the humility challenge. I win. In your face!
…aaaaaand we're back to even footing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 11, 2011, 09:40:20 AM
Dang it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 11, 2011, 16:24:13 PM
There is NO gay innuendo here
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 11, 2011, 18:54:47 PM
There is NO gay innuendo here
Give us a kiss, love.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 12, 2011, 10:15:40 AM
Dang it. It's safer underground. I went walking around on the surface, saw a creeper and decided I'd try to harvest its sulfur by killing it with my sword from three metres above, but it blew up. Oh well. I dropped into the depression where it had been standing and spotted another creeper deeper in this cave. I think, "my trusty diamond sword shall give me a fighting chance!" Shit went downhill from there. It exploded before I could kill it—but that wasn't the bad part—the bad part was that we were only standing on a thin layer of stone, which gave way via a massive fall into a much larger cave below me. Suddenly in the darkness, after dropping a good 15 metres, I was surrounded by zombies, skeletons, spiders and creepers. I was killed in a few second flat.

I raced back to the scene of my death after hurriedly crafting some iron armour to try and reclaim my diamond sword and the rest of my loot. I died twice more, once by catching on fire after walking through lava to escape them, before I was able to recollect almost everything and erect a wall between myself and the monsters.

I'm now convinced that we are actually playing on the Hard difficulty level because creepers don't usually explode when I'm three metres above them, and I'm pretty sure I gave myself that much space.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 12, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
Hahaha. Welcome to what happens to me almost every time I play.

I agree, we must be on hard difficulty. Also, I think the multiplayer game is inherently plagued with that sort of thing. We have a guy that owns server space and might be willing to give us a spot for free. It's a better piece of equipment, and it's built for this sort of thing. Not that we've had any real issues since we got all the kinks worked out, but this might make it even better.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 12, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
Cool. I agree, the problems aren't so bad now, but if your acquaintance will give you free space on a better server, I say go for it! Indeed, SMP seems to have certain probs, like Lapis Lazuli only dropping one blue dye per block :( The biggest problem with creepers on Hard is that they blow up faster (and closer?) than on Normal. Hence, we get less warning, and given the lag we experience that's not enough to get out of the way or to kill them with two fell swings of a diamond sword.

In other news, I ventured to the Northern Desert once more and returned with nearly 600 sand. Feel free to pillage.

P.S. Our new wheat farm looks rad.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 12, 2011, 12:23:02 PM
Oh god, good. I wasted a ton of the sand making sandstone. I was worried about getting going on the glass again.

Yes, thank you so much for that help on the farm. You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 12, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
I looked into it. The server can only control whether monster spawn or not. So it's on/off. Damage dealt is client side. So apparently if you set your difficulty to easy, you'll deal max and take minimum.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 12, 2011, 18:43:23 PM
Client side, eh? Must just be the lag. I say this because I performed another experiment today. I had access to plenty of creepers and I made sure I was three metres above them. They filled a little cavern beneath me. I swung and I swung but to no avail. They blew up. I also tried fighting a burning zombie in the open. I was trying to hurt it without it hurting me but it didn't matter where I stood. From too far away, my swings missed. From just close enough, he hit me before I hit him. I would hypothesise that the lag between myself and the server means that if I swing from too far away, I'll obviously miss, while if I swing just when I'm close enough, the delay between me swinging and the server making the zombie walk toward me means that he just walks inside my swing and hurts me.

I saw a similar thing today with spiders. They apparently hurt me while not standing next to me. My only option is to create a Monster Grinder 3000.

I keep visiting the farm to make sure it's still awesome. It is.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 12, 2011, 21:30:51 PM
Yeah. I get the same thing. Well, new experiment with a different server hopefully.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 12, 2011, 22:33:01 PM
I have to eat my words: skeletons spawned in my mine. They need less light to spawn the deeper you go.

But yours is still way open. I'm waiting in your storage area for daylight and a skeleton just wandered in and shot at me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 13, 2011, 09:53:12 AM
A snapshot of the world Superman and I have created so far.

(1) The view from bedrock to surface of the moon reaching its zenith while I mine deep underground.
(2) Sunset behind my Great Tree. The entrance to my home and mineshaft is at the right in the image.
(3) Superman's ginormous mine pit at the bottom of the world.
(4) Superman admiring the fireplace in my entrance hall.

(Background) Pianoman, resplendent in armour, diamond sword in hand, with Superman's Dome of Origin behind. I'm standing on the North Road. Train tracks will eventually take us between distant parts of our world. The road is so bright because lava tubes, encased in glass, skirt the road. No torches for us—we use freakin' lava!

Oh, and in case you're wondering, yes, that is a lava fountain atop the dome. We spawn next to it, on that dome, and leap through the centre, down several storeys, into a deep pool marking the nexus of our road network.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 13, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Every once in a while you spawn in the lava fountain. That's good times.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 13, 2011, 11:08:40 AM
A snapshot of the world Superman and I have created so far.

(1) The view from bedrock to surface of the moon reaching its zenith while I mine deep underground.
(2) Sunset behind my Great Tree. The entrance to my home and mineshaft is at the right in the image.
(3) Superman's ginormous mine pit at the bottom of the world.
(4) Superman admiring the fireplace in my entrance hall.

(Background) Pianoman, resplendent in armour, diamond sword in hand, with Superman's Dome of Origin behind. I'm standing on the North Road. Train tracks will eventually take us between distant parts of our world. The road is so bright because lava tubes, encased in glass, skirt the road. No torches for us—we use freakin' lava!

Oh, and in case you're wondering, yes, that is a lava fountain atop the dome. We spawn next to it, on that dome, and leap through the centre, down several storeys, into a deep pool marking the nexus of our road network.


............I .................I'm speechless.
That dome is incredible.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 13, 2011, 18:20:00 PM
............I .................I'm speechless.
That dome is incredible.
Pretty rad, eh? I didn't lay a stone. It was all Superman.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 14, 2011, 09:47:54 AM
He needs more poonani.


Unless there is such a thing as Minecraft poonani, at which he can bring the ladies in, show them his "dome" and sip cognac and smoke fine cigars.


................I want to live there with you, Super. Can we Tron it up and join the board?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 15, 2011, 02:21:10 AM
If I had tried to do it freehand like I originally tried to do, it would have sucked. I sat down and drew it out first though. It's just a circle all the way up to the dome and the dome is a circle and two half circles. I think it was maybe an hour and half total to build it. Geometric shapes really aren't that bad.

I've spent far, far more time on that ugly mine.

He needs more poonani.

Agreed.

...I want to live there with you, Super. Can we Tron it up and join the board?

Yeah. Actually, that's sort of the whole idea.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 15, 2011, 11:57:43 AM
Get your arse on our server, Hades.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 16, 2011, 14:09:33 PM
Just built a portal, but I won't take me to the nether. This lava road idea just got complicated.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 16, 2011, 22:46:15 PM
Just built a portal, but I won't take me to the nether. This lava road idea just got complicated.
Dang. Can't go to the Nether in multiplayer.
There is a mod to allow it, I think.

I've travelled south for a couple of days looking for a nice place in this world. Here are some pictures of what I think might be a new base. It's got a nice view from up high, interesting landscape at the site with open space around and near to the ocean.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 17, 2011, 16:56:08 PM
Day 4.
I've continued south. Looking for a suitable plateau to build a small castle, I saw this one from afar and came to inspect it. Upon climbing the side nearest to me, I found this on the other side. A valley, bridged by land, with a waterfall and lava fall on opposite sides.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 18, 2011, 10:26:33 AM
Day 7.
I've completed a guard tower about a week's travel south and slightly west. Here's what it looks like. I've also left plenty of preserved food, other supplies and even the materials to make several blocks of TNT.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 18, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
That lava tower is amazing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 18, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
Thank you!

Night 8.
Ultimate protection. With a view.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 18, 2011, 11:56:14 AM
The Minecraft Experiment, final entry: Cake or Death?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 19, 2011, 07:44:16 AM
So apparently a lot of things we see wrong in our server are known multiplayer bugs.

Some of the bugs I can vouch for include:
• Enormous, cuboid areas of unfinished map open in random places. Caves, minerals, water, magma and mobs are visible when a Player peers into one of these voids.
• Fired arrows will appear to come out backwards at first, then continue on a regular trajectory.
• Boats greatly increase server lag.
• Furnaces rotate, when they are used.
• A player will pass through the minecart, but when the player is passing through it counts as "pushing" the minecart.
• Crouching/Sneaking over tilled soil, seeds or wheat does not prevent it from becoming trampled.\
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 19, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
Day 12?
I have been making my way home in a roundabout manner. I've built the most precarious of the watchtowers yet, with the most commanding view of the surrounding area. I have documented its appearance and roughly how to find it.

(1) View facing northwest. When you climb the ladder, you will be facing west.
(2) View facing southeast. You can see the staircase approaching the tower.
(3) Tower from the front. You can see the top of the lava beacon on its south face.
(4) View of the lava beacon in its entirety. Home is roughly due east (and a little north).
(5) Spotting wandering night time creepers on an opposing mountaintop from the safety of the watchtower. The top of the lava beacon is in view.
(6) I created a magnificent waterfall from a single water source.
(7) The bottom of the waterfall conceals a rough stairway carved into the mountain. It is the only means of access to the tower, for it is impossible to scale the sheer faces.

This watchtower is roughly due west (and a little south) of the spawn point. All of the watchtowers have lava beacons, that you might find them even in the most panicked of night time escapes or the brightest of days.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 19, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
Beds are coming!

Also 2 videos:

Diamonds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Ci09GwAmg&feature=player_embedded

The Last Minecart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8uyxVmdaJ-w
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 20, 2011, 14:06:06 PM
Otter apparently made it so people will less than legit/full versions of MCraft can jump on. I tried this week, and I can't hop on Super's unless he also does this change. It's in the options somewhere. Super, can you help?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 20, 2011, 18:30:30 PM
[edit] Oh, wait, I just realised... the setting was probably called verify-names. Should be set to false by editing server.properties?

I couldn't find what setting Otter was referring to, only his mention of the warning he received:
I did find a setting... but it was a little scary... I went ahead and did it.  Give it a try and let me know if that's the problem.

The warning I got when I changed it was this:

###############WARNING##################
verify-names is set to false! This means that anyone who
connects to this server can choose any username he or she
wants!  This includes impersonating an OP!
If you wish to fix this, edit server.properties, and change
verify-names to true.
###############WARNING##################

So yeah, give it a whirl... and let me know.

Also, remember how you felt about this game Hades?
I love this thread.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 21, 2011, 04:36:38 AM
Yeah, I think that was it. Can you bump that value like Otter did so I can get in? I promise to play nice.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 24, 2011, 09:59:15 AM
I thought you owned the game. Dude, it's $15. He's one dude that's created one of the best games in years. You'll pay $3 for some flash game on your iPhone. I think this is probably worth your cash.

That setting allows you to change your name on the server. I'll gladly switch it if you guys want.

The reason you could play on Otter's server was because back then multi player was just for the Classic version. We're playing the full version of the game. Anyone can play the Classic mode for free, but you do have to pay to play the full game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 24, 2011, 10:50:33 AM
Seconded. Buy it. You'll spend a lot more on other crap you don't need. Then you can come and join our yay server.

P.S. Lanky, come join us.

Interesting Minecraft video. It's only 1 minute. Watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MfrT0wvMg
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 24, 2011, 17:44:16 PM
If I see a hack, I'll be on ASAP. Until then............ you guys rock.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 24, 2011, 17:47:38 PM
Some important news.

Quote from: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/3446675806/minecraft-beta-1-3
Minecraft Beta 1.3
* Implemented a new lighting engine with the help of MrMessiahs (can be turned off)
* Changed the options around, added a new “Graphics options” button
* Added beds. If all players in a map sleeps in a bed during night, the game immediately skips until morning
* Added three new half-size blocks
* Added Delay/Repeater redstone dust blocks
* Added whitelisting to the server. To use, enter “whitelist <cmd>” where cmd is “on”, “off”, “add <player>”, “remove <player>”, “list” or “reload”
* New save file format, old maps need to be converted (that might take a while..)
* It’s now possible to have more than five save slots, and to rename saves
* Scrollbars in both the texture pack list, and in the map selection screen
* Replaced the Mojang splash image to reflect the new logo colors
* .. and a bunch of bug fixes and tweaks!

Also, 2 Player Productions wants to make a documentary about Mojang.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 25, 2011, 06:53:18 AM
You're going to hack a $15 game?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 25, 2011, 07:17:07 AM
It's more cost-efficient to buy the game than to spend your time searching for a hack.

If you earn $50/hr, you'll need to find and apply the hack in less than 18 minutes. If you include the time spent requesting Superman to change settings that would allow you to use a less-than-honest version, you've got even less time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 25, 2011, 08:17:28 AM
$50/hr? Holy shit.

Also, again, there is no setting. That just lets you change your name.

Also, I showed the game to my brother this weekend. If he moves to a place that has internets he said he'd probably join up with us.

Also, I know the server didn't get updated with the update yet. I just got home yesterday and I've been too busy to harass my roommate to update it. I'll get him on it soon.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 25, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
$50/hr? Holy shit.
LOL, I don't know, Hades said something in another thread about you bitching at him that he earns more money than you. My salary only worked out to about $25/hr at my last job.

Also, I showed the game to my brother this weekend. If he moves to a place that has internets he said he'd probably join up with us.
Sweet. The more, the merrier. Although, do you think your li'l server can handle it?

Also, I know the server didn't get updated with the update yet. I just got home yesterday and I've been too busy to harass my roommate to update it. I'll get him on it soon.
No rush (hurry up). I've been working on some construction ideas that I'm dying to implement.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 25, 2011, 09:43:34 AM
The server was fine. It was just getting clogged up at network distribution before. The new router we have helps stop that. People streaming movies downstairs can't pull away bandwidth anymore unless we tell it to. Also, Apple computers seems to suck a shit ton of bandwidth for some reason. We put a cap on that too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 25, 2011, 14:27:14 PM
I'm not GOING to hack, I'm GOING to wait for one. I wish I made $50/hour.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on February 25, 2011, 15:45:52 PM
Well... I know a way that you could...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 26, 2011, 15:58:49 PM
Well... I know a way that you could...

I'm in. What's the catch?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 26, 2011, 18:04:06 PM
Herpes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 26, 2011, 19:08:13 PM
Suppression medicine is less than $50/hour, so I'd still be up, right?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 26, 2011, 23:47:34 PM
First time herpes has been part of a plan for financial freedom.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on February 27, 2011, 04:28:41 AM
First time herpes has been part of a plan for financial freedom.

I dunno, back when Herpes was the worst you could catch, I think a lot of hookers and pron stars thought "eh, fuck it"


literally.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 27, 2011, 13:49:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFDDdthEDQ
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 01, 2011, 17:36:51 PM
Those coastlines would put slartibartfast to shame
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 01, 2011, 21:54:58 PM
OK, I’ve watched this twice now and I still laugh at it, so it must be funny enough to post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FpKTbFs2VA&feature=related
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 02, 2011, 01:53:49 AM
That was awesome. I just wish those guys wouldn't put so much fluff time in their videos. Edit or something. It's agonizing to try to watch at work.

Also, his texture pack was pretty hideous. most of them are.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 02, 2011, 11:54:41 AM
That Obsidian Blast Shield video was bearable @ 4min long. It was worth it to hear him be upset and stupid.

Also, his texture pack was pretty hideous. most of them are.
I'm amazed that some people can play with some of those texture packs. I like Pixeludi, though. I borrowed the stone, ore and external tree textures from that pack. The rest of the textures are too dark for my taste.

I’ve also modified my crafting table, sand, chest and glass—and added more grass to the side of my grass tile so that hillsides covered in grass actually look like hillsides covered in grass.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 02, 2011, 23:17:55 PM
Is our server coming back any time soon?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 03, 2011, 00:59:18 AM
Apparently there's some extra issues with updating the server with this update. I keep bugging him. I guess he's technically giving his expertise for free, but c'mon man, get on it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 03, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
It seems like he doesn’t want to play anyway, so I guess that’s cool. I just want to know if I should be looking somewhere else to play/play by myself.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 03, 2011, 15:05:18 PM
No. It's just a pain in the ass to upgrade it. It'll be back soon.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 03, 2011, 15:40:34 PM
Wunderbah  :handsup:

Worthy of the descriptor “epic”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRQHhq6iq0U
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 03, 2011, 18:32:03 PM
On these servers that noone sees, who benefits?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 03, 2011, 18:51:07 PM
The players?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 04, 2011, 07:51:06 AM
I'm told we're up and running again. With that week of vacation and now week of downtime, it just about cured my addiction. Oh well, back to my digital crack.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 04, 2011, 13:20:30 PM
The players?

Player, singular, mainly. It's like digital masturbation.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 04, 2011, 15:26:09 PM
Players, multiple. It's like a digital orgy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 04, 2011, 15:42:53 PM
Players, multiple. It's like a digital orgy.

Dude, will all due respect, I think 80% at LEAST of those awesome castles/shit/caves/whatever are made by people sitting at home playing locally... the online servers have a different panache.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 04, 2011, 15:52:52 PM
I doubt it. A lot of the bigger ones are community efforts. Also, when people makes these, they usually share the save files with anyone that wants them too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 04, 2011, 15:55:30 PM
Touche.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 04, 2011, 19:11:22 PM
I couldn’t give you percentages but I see plenty of both (local effort and community server effort) when I visit the Aesthetically Pleasing Homes/Buildings thread.

What difference does it make though? It’s creative fun whether you play it by yourself or with others.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 05, 2011, 02:54:33 AM
We did a ton of roadwork last night, and Ryan found one of your shacks built out on the ice.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 05, 2011, 17:02:31 PM
We did a ton of roadwork last night, and Ryan found one of your shacks built out on the ice.
You guys must’ve played in between one of my sessions because I came back to see extra track and some other random changes.

Yeah, I had that shack while I was planning to build something on the hill nearby but I realised (after I had harvested the snow) that it started too high. Sorry for destroying the picturesque scenery. I ended up building that little sum’n sum’n a little west and north of that position. You should check it out.

As you travel you’ll probably find more of my little overnight shacks. I’m waiting for you guys to visit my guardtowers. I should build more of them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 05, 2011, 17:30:07 PM
The face? I love it.

(Though, that's south.)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 06, 2011, 06:04:18 AM
Oooooh! That. ...wow.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 06, 2011, 09:02:48 AM
 :handsup: Did you look inside?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on March 06, 2011, 10:30:54 AM

The face? I love it.

(Though, that's south.)
Oooooh! That. ...wow.
:handsup: Did you look inside?

I just came...numerous times.  Thank you Minecraft for being good for something.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 07, 2011, 00:57:39 AM
I just came...numerous times.  Thank you Minecraft for being good for something.
Damn it! I should’ve sculpted a giant penis inside.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 07, 2011, 18:03:14 PM
Minecraft original soundtrack is available in high-quality flac, mp3 or ogg for US$4.
http://c418.bandcamp.com/album/minecraft-volume-alpha

There are quite a few songs I like, so I might buy it. Sweden and Mice On Venus are nice.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 08, 2011, 08:38:49 AM
My mom's been in the hospital having herself turned into a cyborg, so I didn't get out a lot this weekend. It's been mostly sitting around the hospital or playing Minecraft, so I did a ton this weekend.

The road out the Ryan's base it damn near done. The tack goes all the way on one side, but the physics seem to have been tweaked. He seems to have added drag, so momentum isn't infinite anymore. Any help with how to put all this track I've laid to good use would be appreciated.

Also, you'll see my attempt to create a bigger safe zone around the spawn. I paved over, fenced off, and started to light a quadrant off of the spawn. Hopefully it'll be useful for accumulating returned minecarts eventually. Instead running back and forth from a central area, you can just ship all your cobblestone and dirt back by rail, or send chestfulls of smoothstone ahead of you.  I'll have to do it three more times and then light the whole area a lot better and figure out the rail. Eventually I hope that it'll be useful area and it'll pretty rare for mobs to make it within the fenced off area.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 08, 2011, 11:08:27 AM
Very, very interesting. Actually, I haven’t seen your work because I’ve just begun a new project off near/past the Northern Desert. It’ll take me a long time and is such a huge undertaking that I’m digging a new shaft to supply material. I’m beginning to think that I have a sort of Johnny Appleseed style of play, running around the world seeding things here and there. I’ll be happy to come back and help you out, though.

I assume that you’ll still avoid exploiting game bugs like the infinite momentum gained with minecarts? Or has his fix eliminated that possibility altogether? I’ve never utilised tracks before and I’ve never considered their use apart from travelling swiftly from one end of the world to another. The intricacies of how to organise the tracks is initially confusing, so it’ll take me a while to think of something…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 08, 2011, 15:43:42 PM
Watching you two is like those movies where there are only 2 people left in the world. You know one of you will eventually kill the other, right?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 08, 2011, 20:23:48 PM
Except there's three to four people left in the world. So we can still team up on each other.

1 - The thing I thought Pianoman was talking about.
2 - The thing he was actually talking about.
3 - The new spawnpoint work in progress.
4 - My roommate's base so far. Okay, it's just a hole, but that took a lot of time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 08, 2011, 20:26:10 PM
5 - Hey, what's this thing?
6 - The animals like it at night.
7 - Yeah, sleep wasn't happening for me tonight, so this happened instead.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 08, 2011, 23:16:02 PM
Nah, Super and I will keep one-upping each other until the world ends.

Damn, a snow/lava tower, that’s nice… you’ve one-upped me! Our world has a skeleton of awesomeness. And no hacking! Soon, my pretties…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 09, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
P.S. I don’t know what the weird little staircase that the animals love is. I thought you’d built it. Musta been you’re roomie.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 09, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
Oh yeah, That's why I built that snow tower. There was a big dirt pillar there and I assumed it was to mark one of his old lost mines. I didn't see the mine anymore, but I thought I should help beef up the tower a bit so it'd be easier to find again. Then things just got out of control.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 09, 2011, 22:31:22 PM
How do you get onto this server? A friend of mine introduced me the Minecraft recently, so I have become one of the addicted.... :| Not fantastic at building shit yet, but I'll get there...  :)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 09, 2011, 22:54:48 PM
babyjesus.dontexist.net

Sorry about the name. Come join us! Super and I each built a base near the spawn point (when you spawn, jump through the centre of the dome) but we're farther out now extending our constructions.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 10, 2011, 00:12:37 AM
Sounds good.. I'll try and get on tomorrow night..... Not enough time tonight (work tends to get in the way)

Shall see what you guys have done soon!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 10, 2011, 06:01:30 AM
Gorak!!!

I feel all fuzzy inside.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Chevalier laughingnome on March 10, 2011, 09:43:15 AM
He does that to you :-)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 10, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Just south of the big spawn building (towards that giant tree) there's a hole in the side of the hill. Go in there and take anything you need to get started.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 10, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
OK, so I've outlined the temple site (near the new shaft, easy to find cuz I built a little landbridge across the water). I started clearing it of trees last night and laid a few steps. The more I look around the area the more satisfied I am with the chosen site. I looked around for a long while before settling on this place.

I'm not very good with Google SketchUp but it was faster than trying to draw this myself. It gives you an idea of what's in my head. The bottoms of the pillars will be built into the steps, with a flat area at the top of the steps. You are right: sandstone does look the best for this. Hopefully, once I start to lay out more of it, you'll have a better idea.

I'll also try to do a more detailed plan. Symmetry will be very important for this. The main entrance will be on the East side (faces the sunrise and you can see it from the road). The pillars will be evenly spaced, so I have to work out exactly how much space will look good. I haven't considered the entrance(s) much but arches will feature prominently, I reckon.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 10, 2011, 21:37:34 PM
Interesting thread on the Minecraft forums: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146410
It's about ideas to update the Nether. It's organised and very, very detailed. Includes suggestions like "grimwood", fluorescent mushrooms and poison arrows.

Anyway, I found some patterns and played around with them. I came up with some that might look good inside the temple (attached).
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 12, 2011, 20:31:23 PM
Gorak!!!

I feel all fuzzy inside.


Well isn't that nice... As long as it's a good kind of fuzzy.....


Do I need to do anyting to get onto the server? ATM it's not letting me go on..  >:(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 12, 2011, 20:35:52 PM
I keep getting a bad connection error dammit... I'll keep trying tho
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 13, 2011, 05:49:22 AM
I hadn't been on in a few days, so logged in to check and the server seems fine. Have you played on multiplayer before? Just checking the bases. Sometimes wireless routers block certain ports that games use.

So, I picked up a bow today. Fuck beds. I'm an unstoppable Creeper soul stealing machine. Check out the new TNT blocks and gunpowder I've been stockpiling. (If I haven't used it all by the time you read this.) The best part is that if they sneak up on me, they clear out my dirt and rock for me anyway.

Check out this sweet tower I woke up to today. Pianoman is pretty awesome at this.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 13, 2011, 11:47:02 AM
@Gorak: What’s the error message, exactly? The Minecraft Forum may have info about your type of error.

@Superman: There’s no picture! I believe you’re talking about the first pillar of the new temple. That’s no single tower—that’s a supporting structure!

I, too, have been stockpiling sulfur for explosives :) I had a breakthrough moment when I remembered that, of course, feathers can come from chickens too! I suddenly had access to a lot more arrows and was able to rain death upon creepers. Although, you’ll notice a depression near the mine entrance—I was trying to shoot two of them simultaneously. I only stopped one :(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 13, 2011, 14:39:46 PM
All I get is "Failed to login. Bad Connection, Connection Lost"

I'll troll the forums and see if I can find a way around it.....
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 13, 2011, 23:24:49 PM
All I get is "Failed to login. Bad Connection, Connection Lost"

I'll troll the forums and see if I can find a way around it.....
I'm looking on the forums and I can't find an answer for that error. Not very useful. I did find a reasonably OK FAQ from the Compendium of Useful Guides. Perhaps Super can tell you the port you should be connecting to, which you can then specify explicitly as babyjesus.dontexist.net:portNumber.

Just to double check: you tried connecting to babyjesus.dontexist.net in your Minecraft client, yah?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 14, 2011, 02:08:39 AM
I've done port forwarding before to get around stupid routers. That doesn't mean I know how. Do you play other online games? Have you ever had issues before?

Also, another dumb suggestion, but no apostrophe. Just making sure.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 14, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
I've done port forwarding before to get around stupid routers. That doesn't mean I know how. Do you play other online games? Have you ever had issues before?
I was thinking your roomie might know what that port is?


Also, another dumb suggestion, but no apostrophe. Just making sure.
There are no dumb suggestions when troubleshooting.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 16, 2011, 18:55:48 PM
Here's what Google SketchUp looks like when someone knows what they're doing. Imagine I could design the temple properly in this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqc4k4ShNzk
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 17, 2011, 02:59:45 AM
That thing is pretty cool. I like the temple to be a lot more though. How the hell did they get that much brick? I have yet to ever find any clay.

I might need to pull SketchUp back out. I tried it out once and didn't care for it. It looks like it might be pretty powerful though.

I wish I could do more actual building. I spend all my time trying to clear out rock. (Which, admittedly, eventually decays into playing chicken with creepers.)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 17, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
@Gorak: Any luck??

I would say they hacked it in. You saw how much clay I have—that’s the most I’ve ever found.

Do you like the pillars I designed? Let me know if you have some improvements to suggest, or just go ahead and change one of them so we can compare. I also have a vague idea of a building inside the pillars. Don’t worry, it will be bigger and better than that video.


I wish I could do more actual building. I spend all my time trying to clear out rock. (Which, admittedly, eventually decays into playing chicken with creepers.)
I’ve noticed. Every time I come back there’s more of the mountain missing. I’ve also been stockpiling gunpowder. Most of my time is spent building and harvesting sand from a large beach a short distance away. It disappears quickly when you’re forming it into sandstone!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 17, 2011, 14:57:04 PM
I love the pillars. Perfecto.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 19, 2011, 10:38:23 AM
I've started watching Yogscast Minecraft show. I don't know if everyone'll like this guys. Maybe I was conditioned at a young age to enjoy British humour. Or maybe it's the plain way in which they speak. Either way, I'm usually laughing.

http://www.youtube.com/show/minecraft
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Gorak on March 19, 2011, 19:25:20 PM
Sorry guy haven't been on for a while haha... I'll give it a whirl and see how we go... I was defiantely going to babyjesus.dontexist.net in the server name..

I'll troll the FAQ page and see how we go..


On another note, I love watching the Yogscast.... Those two are hilarious :-)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 21, 2011, 15:29:47 PM
Someone's close to making an iPhone port, so I hear. For that, I'd drop the $$. Minecraft 24/7 mobile? Sign me up. I just never am on this lappy enough.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 21, 2011, 22:54:44 PM
Uh oh, Hades is coming to the party!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 22, 2011, 05:23:36 AM
It would be really interesting to see how it would work on a portable.

I threw 3 stacks of sandstone at the temple last night. It didn't even make a dent. What have we got ourselves into?

This was on Minecraft's FB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Lp9p5yjuo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 22, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
OMG, trained wolves! LOL.

I threw 3 stacks of sandstone at the temple last night. It didn't even make a dent. What have we got ourselves into?
We got ourselves into a cesspool of awesome, that's what we've done. Just one of those pillars take at least 430 blocks of sandstone cladding (with dirt insides). That's nearly 7 stacks of sandstone, or 1720 blocks of sand. I have been harvesting a loooot of sand recently.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 22, 2011, 10:35:34 AM
I thought I had a lot of sand until I actually used it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 22, 2011, 10:48:15 AM
There are lots of deserts around, and it takes about one and a half Minecraft days to fill most of my inventory with sand.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 22, 2011, 10:51:27 AM
Maybe I should do more work on that road. Then you can fill up carts.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 22, 2011, 16:30:13 PM
I just found my first dungeon. I got trapped out at night with no arrows and no food with skeletons coming at me. I decided to start digging down toward the mine. On my down I heard skeletons, so after I made it to safety, I decided to go check it out. There wasn't much in loot (some buckets and iron), but maybe we can figure out how to make an arrow factory out of it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 22, 2011, 16:36:47 PM
THE DOGGIES SHAKE THEMSELVES OFF!!! OMG OMG OMG
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 23, 2011, 02:02:04 AM
Maybe I should do more work on that road. Then you can fill up carts.
Holy shit. We really should.


… dungeon… arrow factory
That'd be cool, and it'd be different from our usual exploits. Also, you just reminded me about that zombie dungeon that I found nearby. Remember that it has four pig saddles? Yeah, I really really need to find that again.

THE DOGGIES SHAKE THEMSELVES OFF!!! OMG OMG OMG
I know, right? That was very exciting to see.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 23, 2011, 15:38:31 PM
made a gateway to the nether yet? That's where Hades will build HIS kingdom. When it's on iFone.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 23, 2011, 15:40:51 PM
made a gateway to the nether yet? That's where Hades will build HIS kingdom. When it's on iFone.
No Nether in multiplayer :( It's a bug which has yet to be fixed. I love the Nether! It's so hard to stay alive there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on March 23, 2011, 16:51:38 PM
What is the Nether? 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 23, 2011, 16:53:41 PM
It's basically hell in Minecraft. You have to build a portal and you walk through it to get to hell. Instead of grass and trees, it's rock and lava. Also scary flying things that shoot fireballs at you.

I wish I had known it wasn't in multiplayer yet before I mined all the obsidian.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on March 23, 2011, 17:35:30 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 23, 2011, 20:51:45 PM
I wish I had known it wasn't in multiplayer yet before I mined all the obsidian.
We weren't to know… we only care about the bugs that affect us, which are usually learned the hard way. The game is still in beta, though, and these bugs will eventually be fixed.

Awesome.
It is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 24, 2011, 01:56:27 AM
Super, you've done an amazing amount of clearing work. Most of that mountain has been undercut. I also noticed that you've extended the foundation for the stairway quite a bit. How many pillars are you thinking? I was just gonna stop at 4 pillars wide on that side.

Also, I took out the sand surrounding the lapis lazuli at the base of the pillars. It didn't seem good enough. Do you have any design suggestions?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 24, 2011, 03:09:26 AM
Super, you've done an amazing amount of clearing work. Most of that mountain has been undercut.

That mountain is my Jericho, and I have a diamond fucking trumpet.

I also noticed that you've extended the foundation for the stairway quite a bit. How many pillars are you thinking? I was just gonna stop at 4 pillars wide on that side.

Nope. Bigger.

Also, I took out the sand surrounding the lapis lazuli at the base of the pillars. It didn't seem good enough. Do you have any design suggestions?

I did like the border around the blue. Probably not dirt ultimately though. I'll throw some different material in there and see what looks cool. I'd say just some cloth, but I don't know if white on sandstone would look cool. Orange cloth? I'll have to look up how to dye.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 24, 2011, 10:48:54 AM
I'm sorry, I don't understand the Jericho reference  :(

So how many pillars by how many pillars do you want? I like how enormous this thing is becoming  ;D

I tested white, light grey, dark grey and black cloth around the lapis block but I didn't enjoy seeing any of those variations. Dying to other colours if fairly straightforward. Once you have some dye, just craft it with some wool next to it. Orange = red + yellow dye. Some other colours are more complicated to obtain. Also, I noticed that you found a few more blue dye :)

You know, we could try obsidian surrounding the lapis blocks. I'll go hack down your portal back at the spawn to test it. I also previously tried replacing the lapis block with obsidian but I didn't like that either. Maybe I'll come up with a new design for the base…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 24, 2011, 17:00:59 PM
Nether will come to multi. I can feel it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 24, 2011, 18:36:19 PM
I'm sorry, I don't understand the Jericho reference  :(

The walls came tumbling down.

So how many pillars by how many pillars do you want? I like how enormous this thing is becoming  ;D

That far-ish. 6? If we go that far we don't have to do major shore rebuilding.

I tested white, light grey, dark grey and black cloth around the lapis block but I didn't enjoy seeing any of those variations. Dying to other colours if fairly straightforward. Once you have some dye, just craft it with some wool next to it. Orange = red + yellow dye. Some other colours are more complicated to obtain. Also, I noticed that you found a few more blue dye :)

Yeah, I figured out dying easily enough. I threw a couple of different colors in there to test.

You know, we could try obsidian surrounding the lapis blocks. I'll go hack down your portal back at the spawn to test it. I also previously tried replacing the lapis block with obsidian but I didn't like that either. Maybe I'll come up with a new design for the base…

There's a ton of obsidian in your mine. I turned that underground pond into a lava disposal site.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 24, 2011, 20:11:44 PM
Oh, duh, trumpet, walls…  :facepalm:

I like the idea of avoiding major shore rebuilding. I'm quite happy with the size of the building site. The next time we're online together I want to explode a huge set of TNT. Like, clear the mountain in one fell swoop. I exploded 5 blocks of TNT simultaneously, using redstone wire. It was fantastic. Imagine 50 blocks exploding at once!

Please feel free to put your own design stamp on any of this… I'm just making it up as I go along.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 24, 2011, 23:27:51 PM
Interesting mod: Artifacts.

Also, I was looking through the Aesthetically Pleasing thread on the Minecraft forums and realised I could use water in the pillar bases. I've built two ideas into existing pillars. Take a look and tell me what you think.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 25, 2011, 15:34:42 PM
I put the corner where I think it should go. I kind of want to see what the whole site looks like with that mountain gone though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 25, 2011, 16:09:58 PM
I put the corner where I think it should go. I kind of want to see what the whole site looks like with that mountain gone though.

Yes, you can move mountains in minecraft
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 25, 2011, 16:46:31 PM
Yes, you can move mountains in minecraft
With a feather! Although, that'd take a long time. I'd prefer to use Superman's…
…diamond fucking trumpet.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 25, 2011, 16:53:37 PM
How's this look?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 25, 2011, 16:56:02 PM
How's this look?
:fonzie:
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 26, 2011, 05:56:11 AM
6X12? 6X18? I'm going to argue 18 unless the ocean is too close on that other side. When I walk it, it seems close, but when I get up top it looks really far away.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 27, 2011, 14:19:11 PM
Wow. Gigantenormongously big it is!

Don't forget, that's why I started setting out those torches as markers—to see how far we could build.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 27, 2011, 16:02:42 PM
Interesting mod. Keep watching. The creatures get more interesting.

Mo' Creatures
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on March 27, 2011, 18:30:08 PM
Can you harvest fur from the foxes and bunnies and make a nice coat? 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 28, 2011, 13:47:52 PM
Can you harvest fur from the foxes and bunnies and make a nice coat? 
That would be fantastic. Or maybe club a baby seal and use its blubber to cook mah dinner.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 29, 2011, 17:49:00 PM
Can you fuck them from behind?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 30, 2011, 10:18:00 AM
When you sleep in a bed it will set your respawn point (in beta 1.4). Doesn't work if you remove the bed

Seriously? Nice.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 30, 2011, 15:55:12 PM
I introduced my brother to the game tonight. I had him on our multi server. I think he liked it well enough. I was going to convince him to buy the game. Then he discovered TNT. I'm afraid to invite him over now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on March 30, 2011, 19:14:04 PM
ooooooooooooooo you can change the respawn point?

NICE
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 30, 2011, 19:46:27 PM
When you sleep in a bed it will set your respawn point (in beta 1.4). Doesn't work if you remove the bed

Seriously? Nice.
NICE!

Anyway, I take it your brother will be playing in our sandbox? Is he the kind to destroy our temple or to help consecrate it? And what happened to your roommate, the host of our server? I've been busy for the past few days. Which is bit of a shit, because my little Minecraftian has an inventory FULL OF SANDSTONE.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 31, 2011, 00:57:50 AM
He was playing around on our server with my account.

Umm, he knows that it'd be a real dick move to go around demolishing things. However, he did express great difficulty in restraining himself.

My roommate is still on now and then. Real life and all that stuff. Also that crippling ADD he apparently has.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 31, 2011, 09:20:26 AM
Oh, I had heard of monsters fighting each other before, but I finally got an all out war going on the temple site one night. It's really easy to get the skeletons to hit pretty much anything. If you have a tight pack following you and the skeleton hits a creeper, the whole group is pretty much done for.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 31, 2011, 13:27:58 PM
Oh, I had heard of monsters fighting each other before, but I finally got an all out war going on the temple site one night. It's really easy to get the skeletons to hit pretty much anything. If you have a tight pack following you and the skeleton hits a creeper, the whole group is pretty much done for.
That's how I got the record, by the way :) I attacked a creeper with 4 arrows and let a skeleton finish him off. Have you played the record yet? That's why I built the jukebox. There were some other skeletons shooting at each other that night… fun times.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 01, 2011, 04:20:51 AM
Yeah. There's a weird glitch where it pops out two images when you eject the record. I had what looked like a room full of records the first day because I kept forgetting the benches were in the floor now.

Update is supposedly going live today.

There was an achievements thing, but it got pushed off to next update.

Cocoa beans are in from last time and now are for cookies as well as the brown dye we haven't been able to make. Wolves are in. The bed thing as a spawn point starts with this update. My favorite is the inventory button is getting changed for "I" to "E". I could probably already change that if I wanted to, huh?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 01, 2011, 04:55:33 AM
Just realized 1.4 is coming out on 1/4/11. Might be getting trolled here.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 01, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
Sounds like it's live. People are reporting finding wolves already.

I just remembered how long this took us down last time. I'll talk to my roommate and see if we can avoid the update until the server gets a fix this time. I thought, with the last update, that the game doesn't automatically update anymore. I think you have to click on it. If it's an option, hold off.

Also, I read that monsters can't spawn on half blocks. What do you think about covering the interior of the temple with half blocks instead of lighting the whole damn thing?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 02, 2011, 02:31:57 AM
Yeah. There's a weird glitch where it pops out two images when you eject the record. I had what looked like a room full of records the first day because I kept forgetting the benches were in the floor now.
LOL!

My favorite is the inventory button is getting changed for "I" to "E". I could probably already change that if I wanted to, huh?
Yes ;) We've been able to permanently reassign keys for a while now. I have it set to the TAB key.


Also, I read that monsters can't spawn on half blocks. What do you think about covering the interior of the temple with half blocks instead of lighting the whole damn thing?
If we can confirm this, fuck yeah. It’ll take twice as many sandstone blocks, though :P


I haven't been on for a week! *gasp*  :( because I've been diligently working on adding new product lines to the website…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 02, 2011, 04:28:05 AM
I just read that you can hold the shift key to stop from falling off of ladders now. I could have used that a long time ago.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 02, 2011, 09:10:58 AM
I guess the April Fools joke was fake crates that spawned on the map at random. If you clicked on them, they led you to this page: http://www.minecraft.net/store/loot.jsp

It's a joke on the TF2 store.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 03, 2011, 03:11:04 AM
Just confirmed that you can skip the update. So do that for now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 03, 2011, 10:24:03 AM
Cool. I haven't been on in over a week. I think. It's hard to tell the time once you've stopped playing Minecraft. The days just blend into each other.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 03, 2011, 23:13:09 PM
Just confirmed that you can skip the update. So do that for now.
My Minecraft automatically updated. You lied. Anyway, I can't log into our server. How did you skip the update? Was I supposed to throw away my client at some time in the past for a new client?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 05, 2011, 03:44:21 AM
Hmm, weird. Do you play in browser or did you download it? With 1.3, the option to upgrade your downloaded game is voluntary. I'll try to get lazy ass to upgrade for us. Many favors are owed, I just have a hard time explicitly calling them in.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 05, 2011, 17:43:49 PM
I play with the minecraft.exe client. I had read that with 1.3b we were supposed to be able to choose whether we received updates but I saw no change. With this latest update, however, the Minecraft logo has changed, so I'm guessing that client is working normally. Do you play with the client? Did you delete your old client and re-download it when 1.3b came out?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 06, 2011, 00:38:48 AM
Yeah. It's right after the splash screen.

I guess either track down an old version on PB or somewhere, or just hold out for lazy ass. I know he doesn't have anything tonight.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 06, 2011, 04:55:51 AM
We are 1.4. Beware of dogs.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 06, 2011, 14:43:09 PM
Pfft, I get no such prompting. It just automatically updates immediately after logging in. Anyhoo, I'm glad we're back up :)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 07, 2011, 04:38:43 AM
I can't find any dogs at all.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 07, 2011, 22:42:28 PM
Hmm, perhaps we should research how they should spawn and determine whether our old map is causing us any issues. For example, the latest world spawning algorithm is markedly different from the one which spawned our current world. I know that when squids were introduced, some players had trouble finding them in existing worlds.

You seem to log on in your night time (after work, I suppose), so I'll try and log on around the same time and we can try hunting them together. Should be pretty fun to have bows and arrows, travelling the land.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 08, 2011, 01:37:38 AM
I read that they spawn almost exclusively in forested and taiga biomes, they spawn far more often at night, and they spawn in light. So I ran around the woods north of that desert that's north of the temple, dropped a bunch of torches in a big circle, and walked the circle all night.

Then, in the wiki, it was pointed out that because they're so rare and because there's a max mob spawn per chunk, it can take a long time to get wolves to spawn. It suggests setting up shop in a biome, spending a few nights there, and killing as many mobs as possible to get the chunk to generate more. Makes sense to me.

I'm also in favor of a big trip. The northwest quadrant has so many of those little shacks, it's pretty much civilized. I vote going east. I'll be home by 9ish, so... I think noonish there? I have tomorrow off, so I don't have any strict time limit.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 08, 2011, 02:16:10 AM
Yup, just checked Google. 9pm there will be midday here. If I can get on at that time, I will. If you don't see me, it's because I'm working.

I see that you've found a very steep-walled cavern beneath the north steps of the temple ;) Very cool. Maybe we can turn that into our hidden catacombs filled with danger or something something. Anyway, I've just completed the 3rd east pillar and built a 4th, so we're doing well. Thanks for setting up the base outlines. I trust you, so I didn't bother to ensure that you spaced them correctly.

Also, I am now carrying an inordinate amount of arrows. I spent one minecraft night sifting through gravel to for flint and now have over 200 arrows on me. We'll have some good hunting.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 08, 2011, 02:38:11 AM
Thanks for setting up the base outlines. I trust you, so I didn't bother to ensure that you spaced them correctly.

Spacing them correctly was easy. However, the first time I had them all one meter too far out. I got done, looked down the line, and swore a lot. That took some time to redo.

Also, I am now carrying an inordinate amount of arrows. I spent one minecraft night sifting through gravel to for flint and now have over 200 arrows on me. We'll have some good hunting.

I built a grinder out of that dungeon I found. It exits into the mine close to the obsidian pit. It's pretty cool except that it doesn't work. I think the water flow is interrupted somewhere. I assume I created an infinite water pool somewhere. I'll have to try to get it lit up again and work on it sometime. It should provide a lot of arrows if I ever get it to work.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 08, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
LOL, yes, the pillars are spaced 18 metres apart and are 9 metres in width.

I built a grinder out of that dungeon I found.
That reminds me: I should find that zombie dungeon that I marked with a tall dirt pillar with torches at the top. The chest had 4 pig saddles in it! We could log four people on at the same time for some pig rodeo.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 08, 2011, 19:24:56 PM
What has two dogs and carries mountains around in its pockets? This guy.

Also, check out the mountain destruction.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 09, 2011, 01:36:14 AM
Aw, no! You found the mutts without me! Damn work and social life!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 09, 2011, 03:32:14 AM
Haha. Sorry. I set up a shack far north of the temple that seems to be in about the right place. ...then I got back to the temple and found four more.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 10, 2011, 20:36:19 PM
Haha. Sorry. I set up a shack far north of the temple that seems to be in about the right place. ...then I got back to the temple and found four more.
lol

I'd better hurry up and find some furry friends…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 10, 2011, 21:59:33 PM
May I also join the lankyland minecraft server?  I could collect flowers and go around painting all the sheep.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 11, 2011, 16:33:21 PM
May I also join the lankyland minecraft server?  I could collect flowers and go around painting all the sheep.
Sure :) I've sent you a private message with the server name. You won't be able to paint sheep, though, as that was just a bug which was soon remedied after discovery.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 11, 2011, 18:36:51 PM
I walked around, can't remember which direction I went, after awhile I saw this huge tower, I made a little place out of wooden planks, and I put a bed I crafted at the bottom.  I go to sleep to make it my spawn point but a stupid skeleton archer opens a door, that's underwater and because he has too much health, kills me.

I lost a bucket I was borrowing to get the water out of my tiny area which makes me sad.

I thought I remembered which way I went but somehow even though not once did I do anything but go straight, I suddenly find myself at the spawn point which is the great big tower with lava encased in glass all around?  I thought I found wonderland.

My laptop isn't meant for games, or graphics.  Not to mention my internet is really bad so minecraft lags for me almost always which made it not enjoyable to try to find that skeleton and beat him up.  Maybe another day.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 11, 2011, 21:37:32 PM
LOL, nice story. At least you found your way back to your reference point.

Superman made that wonderland. Pretty good spawn home, eh?

You can reduce the rendering distance and the quality of graphics and lighting in order to improve performance. You might see a marked improvement.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 12, 2011, 06:25:00 AM
Awesome. Yeah, I don't know if my brother has been on yet, but that would bring it up to 5ish.

Pianoman has the right idea. My roommate has a better computer than me, and he turns the graphics settings down all the way. Other than the trees, I really can't tell much difference, so there's not much loss. Also, try opening up your task manager and setting Java to high priority. Someday they'll port the game out of Java and everything will be awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 12, 2011, 07:36:58 AM
I have smooth lighting off, graphics: fast, and everything else low?  How do you turn the graphics down?  I don't use any texture packs.  I set Java's priority to high.  I'm testing it now.

Okay I guess I picked the right way this time.  It's lagging but I think slightly less.  I am back in this tower thing, after being hunted down by a spider and skeleton archer.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 12, 2011, 08:48:43 AM
You changed the right settings. Graphics only have two settings: fast and fancy. Same with smooth lighting: on or off. The best performance booster for me is the render distance: short, tiny, normal or far. I can run Minecraft with smooth lighting on, fast graphics and a normal render distance without much problem. It will soon crash if I run it with a "far" render distance.

Also, I forgot about limiting the framerate: I believe this option helps to minimise laggy framerate issues. E.g. if the game is trying to give you 80fps but you can only do 20fps, your game may become too choppy. Turning "Limit Framerate" on can help with this.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 12, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
It's such a simple game. I'm always surprised at people reporting performance problems, even with the whole Java thing.

Well, welcome Greensteam. I hope you have fun.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 12, 2011, 09:25:39 AM
I have Limit Framerate on as well.  I have render distance on short.

I melted some iron ignots to make a new bucket.  I'm trying to fix the water currents I created when I accidentally took water out of the ocean.  It's kind of working.

Now I just need to find out where to go from here.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 12, 2011, 09:34:59 AM
Most of the stuff that's built is right at the spawn, far north of it, or east. I think Pianoman put some towers up far to the south once. There's pretty much nothing to the west.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 12, 2011, 11:13:53 AM
Most of the stuff that's built is right at the spawn, far north of it, or east. I think Pianoman put some towers up far to the south once. There's pretty much nothing to the west.
Actually, if you head due west you'll eventually come across the start of Superman's roommate's base. If you continue a little further west and south of that, you'll see a big-arse snow-topped tower that I built. There are a few supplies and some beds in there. If you continue further west and a little south of that, you may eventually find one of my lava-beacon guard towers. These also have some basic supplies (incl. food), crafting bench, furnace etc. Click the link for instructions on how to find it. I'd really love to visit that tower again. It's in an awesome position. In fact, if you manage to find it, you'll be the first person to see it other than me. I also have yet to see most of the shacks that Superman tells me he's built.

Anyway, I did built two or three more lava-beacon guard towers to the south, around 4-7 minecraft days' worth of travel from the spawn point. All of these places have supplies.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 13, 2011, 06:16:49 AM
Oops. I switched east and west.

Official release date set for November 11th.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 13, 2011, 17:12:03 PM
Official release date set for November 11th.
Awwww, doooooood! Guyyyyyy! Duuuuuuuude!

Oops. I switched east and west.
I was afraid I might've mistaken directions again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 14, 2011, 10:53:49 AM
Damn it! I'm spitting chunks. I had returned to the mine shaft to sleep through the night when I heard a dog barking. I thought it was you, but I got no response, so I climbed up and found a freaking dog had spawned right there! I tamed it with just one bone and then it started attacking some monsters that had taken a swipe at me. I killed the monsters but my dog died in the attacks (or I accidentally killed it, I'm not sure).

I had a dog for all of one minute :(


By the way—nice bunk beds :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 14, 2011, 10:58:09 AM
Yeah, I lost one that I brought mining with me. Get out of the way of the pick ax, dumbass!

I have mine penned up sort of near the base, but I put it up the hill so the barking wouldn't get annoying.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 14, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
I have mine penned up sort of near the base, but I put it up the hill so the barking wouldn't get annoying.
I just realised that you added a picture of the dog pen to an earlier post…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 15, 2011, 19:54:38 PM
Everytime I load the Minecraft thread, I see this:
Can you fuck them from behind?

Anyway, today is a sad day. I slept in that top bunk in the mine shaft… but when I awoke I was encased in something. I tried hacking at it, and I could hear stone breaking, but I couldn't see a thing. I was taking damage the whole time and soon died. Unfortunately, I respawned at the original spawn point because "my home bed was missing or obstructed". In my haste, I travelled south instead of north and lost all hope of regaining my possessions. I was carrying diamond tools, but I don't lament their loss as much as… the 12 stacks of sandstone I was carrying. 12 stacks! All for nought…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 16, 2011, 15:13:16 PM
*moan* Damn, I just remembered that I was still carrying 200+ arrows when I lost everything… farout.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 17, 2011, 04:12:41 AM
Instead of returning to the temple site, I stopped off at the desert to resume my collection of sand. I was there for many Minecraft days. Eventually I returned, not only to find that my dog had been waiting for me there but that also my shit was still floating around the bed! The stacks of sandstone, the diamond tools—the arrows! It was all there!

I have no idea why it was still around but I was able to pick the stuff up without a problem. That's one glitch I'm thankful for.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 18, 2011, 14:12:08 PM
Apparently, according to this Tweet by jeb_ back in January, the Minecraft engine was never built to handle two worlds simultaneously. This is why we don't have the Nether in SMP and it sounds like it will never come—unless they rebuild the engine. But can you really see them doing that? No, I can't either. I hear that Notch has other planned uses for portals. Perhaps they'll just be like stargates or something…
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 18, 2011, 14:16:58 PM
Speaking of minecraft wandering, I slept in a bed as soon as I got on to make it day.  I of course slept holding a sword just in case.  Then I forgot about beds turning into your new spawn point.  I tried moving it around to start over and find where everyone is but I had to put all 3 beds in a chest until it would work.  So if you arrive at a tower near an uncompleted stone walkway/bridge then check the chest!

In other news, I suggest you put signs up in the central main spawn to tell people what is south, and what is in said direction.  I also wouldn't mind extra effort to explain how you've determined which way is south.   ;D
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 20, 2011, 03:44:58 AM
That's crazy Pianoman. I know when I'm running the road north tot he temple, I'll run across blocks that I knocked out hours before. I don't know what that's all about. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason.

The bed resetting the spawn point is new. Thanks for the tip on how that works. I was wondering if there was a way to easily get it back to default.

I was wondering if signage would be helpful. I guess I was thinking that discovery is big part of Minecraft. We've already taken away part of that initial wonder for any brand new players by building so much. I thought making the things we built discoverable would at least give a little bit of that back. It's not anything I feel strongly about. It's just my half thought out rationale.

The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Also, the clouds drift north.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 20, 2011, 03:47:52 AM
1.5 just launched. Please don't update. The power went out on Sunday night and it was like pulling teeth trying to get my roommate to put the server back up. He's not a dick, he's just lazy as all hell and forgets how much he relies on me.

*edit*

Never mind. It's updated I guess.

From Notch:
* Weather (rain, snow, thunder)
* Statistics
* Achievements
* Detector rail
* Booster rail
* Performance improvements

Also, I hear the half ladder thing won't work anymore.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 20, 2011, 13:09:11 PM
Quote from: Superman
<updates happened>
blah blah
"Booster Rail"
Oh my Gawd, Oh my Gawd, Oh my Gawd! *cough, back to being a man*

Yeah, spit and shit.

As you know, my client automatically updates… so I can't avoid it if I try. These updates have comprehensive-sounding names. I'm genuinely excited.

I was wondering if signage would be helpful. I guess I was thinking that discovery is big part of Minecraft. We've already taken away part of that initial wonder for any brand new players by building so much. I thought making the things we built discoverable would at least give a little bit of that back. It's not anything I feel strongly about. It's just my half thought out rationale.
Yeah, sorry, you're probably right. I was just excited about having new players AND considered that it's still pretty hard to find stuff in Minecraft even when its rough position is known.


Anyway, with regard to determining direction, I saw an awesome underwater compass in a Minecraft video several months ago. It's been in the back of my mind to build one because it just looked really great. (Jump to 2m15s in the video.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5mfovSjxc#t=02m15s
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 20, 2011, 13:31:23 PM
Climbing ladders now requires ladders to be every block, you can no longer climb with ladders on every other block.  Which also means you can't jump onto a ladder which is above the ground by one block.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 21, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
Booster tracks are officially the coolest thing ever. I'm glad all those roads can be utilized now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 21, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
Booster tracks are officially the coolest thing ever. I'm glad all those roads can be utilized now.
It was totally our plan all along. *shifty eyes*

So, Superman's dog is officially awesome. We travelled for days, found a sweet mountain range, and then his dog appeared—at the top of the world.

The mountain range reaches the sky.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 21, 2011, 17:38:41 PM
Rain and some random traveling picture.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 22, 2011, 00:23:48 AM
Where was the rain picture taken?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 22, 2011, 02:01:48 AM
Hey Super, what do you reckon of this wall + interspersed tower design? I tested it in another world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 22, 2011, 02:25:10 AM
Where was the rain picture taken?

The back of the mountain by the temple. Those are the chests full of stone, dirt, and gravel I had to drop off on the other side so I could keep digging back to the front. That mountain will fall.  ...I probably shouldn't have used all my sulfur to make that hole under the temple, huh?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 22, 2011, 02:35:21 AM
Hey Super, what do you reckon of this wall + interspersed tower design? I tested it in another world.

Nice! You have a way with these things. I can absolutely picture that at the site.

I sort of want to build a road out to the new site. So others can find it, we can go back and forth to get materials, and I want to try building a rail to transport tons and tons of rock. There should be more than enough gold back at the temple, right? The problem is that it'll take a really long time and I still haven't made much of a dent in the new mine. I don't know if I even have enough rock to make a single line back to the temple. I'm picturing a 3 wide eventually (main road is 9 wide, the one other side road was 3 wide, and side roads off of that can be 1 wide?), but just a single straight line back to familiar territory will make travel a lot easier. I don't have a perfect memory of the site, but I was thinking that the road should start north of the site over the lake and we should get close enough to the temple going straight west. I bet it's half as far back to the temple as it is from the temple to spawn.

I really want to help build the new castle, but I feel like I should get infrastructure out to it first.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 22, 2011, 08:12:02 AM
I moved those boosters from every other to every third to see if we could get by with any less. I think it might work if it started off a little faster.

Also, the wiki has some thoughts.

Quote from: Minecraft Wiki
Optimal Use
A powered rail boost gives an occupied cart enough momentum to travel 64 tiles on a flat surface from a standstill, or an unoccupied cart 8 tiles. Having more than one powered rail next to each other increases the cart's momentum further, however you won't get much additional boost. Unlike the old boost system, booster rails won't provide the cart with much energy past the cart "speed limit" of 8 m/s. A slower minecart gets a larger speed boost and vice versa, thus it is usually suboptimal to place powered rails next to each other, and instead better to space them out at regular intervals once the cart is initially traveling quickly.[1] Cart boosters remain useful as they produce higher momentum and require iron as opposed to gold.[2]
The optimal spacing of powered rails is to use 1 every 26 blocks (that is, 1 powered rail followed by 25 normal rails, repeated) which maintains a constant minecart speed of 8m/s.[3] Using 1 every 30 distance results in a negligible 2.6% speed decrease (an increase in travel time by factor of ~0.027 or a speed of 7.8 m/s) if you wish to save on gold ingots. Using 1 powered rail every 32 blocks results in a 10% drop in speed (an increase in travel time by a factor of 1/9 or a speed of 7.2m/s). The player will need to decide on time taken to travel versus amount of resources used when deciding on the powered rails repeating interval (how far apart a single powered rail should be placed every n rails).
4 Powered Rails in a row is sufficient to boost a minecart from rest to the maximum travel speed of 8m/s, so a simple minecart launchpad is to attach a button to the start of the 4 consecutive Powered Rails with a stop block behind it.
Climbing slopes with powered rails is difficult and slow. Placing a powered rail ever other block is enough to climb up at a decent pace. Similarly, adding an additional booster for every block climbed over long tracks that go up and down can help preserve speed.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 22, 2011, 08:33:45 AM
More cool 1.5 stuff:

- SHIFT-clicking on something in a chest will immediately move the selected item(s) into your inventory and vice-versa.
- Birch and Pine/Spruce trees now drop Birch and Pine/Spruce saplings, respectively. (Actually I did notice that last time I was playing with PM, but I got distracted by something else and forgot to point it out.
- Huge performance improvements for old and slow computers.
- If lightning strikes a pig, it becomes a Zombie Pigman.
- If lightning strikes a Creeper, it becomes electrified and will have a much more powerful explosion.
- Pigs burnt to death drop cooked meat.
- Wolves are more common, even in non-taiga/forest biomes.

Also, you know that achievement prompt?

- Achievements only work in SMP if you have already completed first achievement in Single Player.
- Sometimes you might not get an achievement even if you do what it requires to get. This can usually be fixed by doing it in another world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 23, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
I'm stuck at the bottom of a mine.  It says Mine level 0, 1, 2, and 3 on various signs.  The ladders were only one every other block so now with the new patch I can't climb them.  I have no items. 

Help.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 23, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
Ummm, if it's the mine by the tree (I'm pretty sure there's only two mines like that and I fixed the ladders in the other one already), look for the fancy diagonal hallway. It should be to the right if your back is against the ladder. It leads to the neighboring mine and there are stairs up to the top.

If you're in some other mine of Pianoman's that I've never seen... start punching up I guess.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 23, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Oh right, yeah there was this big tree covered with torches.  Okay I'm going back in to try to get out.

I found the diagonal hallway, that was fun.  I've now barricaded myself inside the tree.  This is a good resting spot.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 23, 2011, 13:22:39 PM
That big open mineshaft has a treefarm over it and a wheat farm over that. Feel free to use, but please replant.

If you follow the rail, that goes to the spawn. If you follow the rail and turn left halfway up, it goes to the communal storage area.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 24, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
LOL, yes, you were stuck in my mine not far from the spawn point. Sorry, I didn't think to go back and fix ladders. Do you like my tree? I had considered creating an underground passage from the mine shaft up into the centre of that tree and making it into a treehouse. But now most of time is spent building a big-arse temple.

Post back here of your travels. I'd like to know when you find any more of our constructions.

Thanks for the 1.5b update, Superman. I'm of a similar mind: work on infrastructure before starting a castle, both because infrastructure will speed things up but also because I haven't had much luck with castles before. Which is odd, considering the temple is shaping up extremely well.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Chevalier laughingnome on April 24, 2011, 12:59:10 PM
This is my only contribution to this thread, courtesy of Yahtzee over at The Escapist.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 24, 2011, 13:07:03 PM
That was good ;) Although he spent the first minute not talking about Minecraft.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 24, 2011, 13:10:55 PM
That's fine, and yes I do.  Actually I put some ladders on one-side of the tree which goes to the top.  I tried to plant a few trees on top of each other but it didn't work.  Next to it I made an igloo but I had no glass to make windows for, so I left a hole.  A spider chased and killed me before I could open the door.  (I made it to the door, but the lag told me I wasn't allowed to open the door.) 

After I get a better computer, maybe I'll be able to help build the temple and other things.

Nonsense ramblings:  (This is TL;DR, I warned you)

I finally got tired of my two single player files and deleted them.  A few patches ago my first single-player file got deleted when minecraft crashed.  Then I went to remake my world in world 5 again (when you only had 5 saves) and I eventually found my old place with some of it intact, and a huge whole where my main chest was.  We recently got squids before I made this world, and in this fountain I made, there was a few squid.  When putting glass over the gaping hole filled with water, a few squid swam in and eventually I only had one left.  I loved him above all other squids because he didn't leave me.  I didn't feed him, but he was okay with that, probably eating the occasional chicken that went for a swim.  I knew that before I left that world, I would free him, and using some gold I had made a few shovels to quickly dig to his freedom.  After some water bucket maneuvers and a lot of pushing him down the stream he was in the ocean and was free.  Then in my diamond armor set which I had exactly 24 diamonds to make, I walked far away to another place on the cobblestone track I made for minecraft tracks which was never finished.  After getting there I gathered some wool, and laid it all on the ice sorted by color, throwing some snow blocks near it too.  I took the valuables of this second base (diamonds, iron, and gold) and with my golden sword I broke the ice and threw them away to never see daylight again.  Then with the last few swings of my sword, I went back down to my base (under the ice) and slashed it over, failing to drown myself I disconnected and said farewell.  Time to start again, one day.. one day.. (but when I do get a new computer, I'll be playing magicka, portal 2, and amnesia.)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 24, 2011, 13:47:22 PM
After I get a better computer, maybe I'll be able to help build the temple and other things.
Actually, a slower computer can still participate just fine in construction. It doesn't matter if it take a little longer for a block to be placed.

Nice story about the squid ;) But I'll stay with Minecraft. I won't be getting Portal 2 or whatever else.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 24, 2011, 18:51:59 PM
I've managed to find my way to the temple this time, I think.  I found the "Perspective: Leave this obsidian here" sign, and am on top of one of the towers with water going down.  Did I make it?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 24, 2011, 20:43:40 PM
I've managed to find my way to the temple this time, I think.  I found the "Perspective: Leave this obsidian here" sign, and am on top of one of the towers with water going down.  Did I make it?
Yes. I'm sorry we didn't meet up! You logged on not 5 minutes after Superman left for sleep. I went back to the temple  build site to look for you but I couldn't find you, and then I got disconnected and couldn't log back on. A real shame. Are you in the USA?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 24, 2011, 21:34:47 PM
I got disconnected too.  When I got back it said you left.  I went a different direction and luckily chose the right one then. 

Yeah I'm in the USA, not sure when I'll be on next.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 25, 2011, 01:47:04 AM
I got booted a lot last night. I have a feeling there was something wrong with MC in general.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 25, 2011, 07:18:50 AM
Terrible news!  The temple is being invaded!  Skeleton Archers have taken over one of the towers!  Can we survive the night?

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/brightcatseye/SkeletonArchers.png)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 26, 2011, 01:36:45 AM
I've been mining for more iron and gold. Stuck it in the base near the temple. Filled out more of the road and some more track. I'm currently mining near the temple (in the main shaft) to find more diamond. I also found that mob trap you built. The zombies and skeletons don't seem to fall down the water, though. Oh well.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 26, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
I think they can swim up water that is next to stone and sink in water next to glass. I've done more research since my failed attempt, but I haven't been back to try the new things I learned.

Last night greensteam and I took out another nice chunk of the mountain and built up the road back towards the spawn. (Don't bunk beds in those little shacks.) I don't know if you remember the weird chunk load error thing last time the server lost power, but it looks like it happened again. A quarter of the spawn temple was wiped out of existence. I did enough repair to put up signs for greensteam, but I had to get to sleep before doing much work on it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 27, 2011, 10:29:03 AM
I don't know if you remember the weird chunk load error thing last time the server lost power, but it looks like it happened again. A quarter of the spawn temple was wiped out of existence.
OMG WTF. It’s cool. Shit happens.

Hey, I've been thinking about a proper train station. I've seen one built on Youtube. You step on a pressure plate and a cart gets sent your way. It utilised the old booster glitch but maybe this use was intended. lanky wanted to build our train system for us before the booster rail came in. I don't know if he can build that. Anyway, it'll require more research but it'll be cool if we can implement it.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 27, 2011, 10:51:10 AM
Last night I started laying out my new idea for the spawn area.  The new site plan will allow for plenty of room for a station, outdoor storage, and once I light it, no mobs. As long as I don't go insane just laying the stone.

My thought was to power each booster unless it's near a place of interest. Then you leave it unpowered and put a button on the ground next to it. The unpowered booster will stop you. If you want to keep going, you just hit the button and off you go.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 28, 2011, 01:44:54 AM
@Superman: In order to make up for my woeful detonation attempt earlier, I have rewired 54 TNT into a little present for you. Climb the ladder and read the sign. But wait for me! I want to see this!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 28, 2011, 06:27:21 AM
No worries. It was still an awesome destruction.

I'm just a bit too giddy to see what that thing is going to do. We really had enough powder leftover for another 54? Awesome.

*edit*

I need to figure out how to do video capture.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 28, 2011, 11:48:49 AM
I need to figure out how to do video capture.
Try Fraps. Free download at http://www.fraps.com. The unregistered version allows for 30 seconds of video capture with a watermark. I just installed it and will try testing it, however I think your system is more powerful than mine, and given that we'll be running memory-hogging Minecraft, perhaps it'd be better if you captured it.

UPDATE: I've tested Fraps. I can achieve what I think is about an average 12 frames per second. I can tell my machine is struggling. I wouldn't be surprised if my system crashed in the middle of trying to record the explosion. Perhaps you can achieve better?

P.S. There is actually more room for a few more pieces of TNT. The spaces are already wired up and just need to be filled! Perhaps we can hunt some creepers and add in the missing pieces.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 29, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
With the latest update they did some performance fixes. Also, it'll eventually get ported out of Java. Try setting Java to high priority for now. It seems to help me a bit.

Also, I was thinking about the two people being far away thing and having to load to sets of surrounding chunks. It seems like after a while it works fine, even if we're still far away. I think it might just be the initial loading of chunks.

I'll try to get fraps to work. Eventually, we'll have to do a system ground to a halt sized explosion. Though, using the redstone seems to have less of a load on the game than when I use tnt to trigger tnt.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 29, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
I'm attempting to convert the temple mine to renewable resources. I've set aside half the furnaces for charcoal production for the time being. I don't know if the tree farm is big enough to keep up with our smelting, but it's certainly going to produce more fuel than mining for coal.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 29, 2011, 11:23:22 AM
With the latest update they did some performance fixes. Also, it'll eventually get ported out of Java. Try setting Java to high priority for now. It seems to help me a bit.

Also, I was thinking about the two people being far away thing and having to load to sets of surrounding chunks. It seems like after a while it works fine, even if we're still far away. I think it might just be the initial loading of chunks.

I'll try to get fraps to work. Eventually, we'll have to do a system ground to a halt sized explosion. Though, using the redstone seems to have less of a load on the game than when I use tnt to trigger tnt.
I might give high-priority Java a try. How do you do it?

Your theory about chunk-loading makes sense. I've read, about other issues, that Minecraft seems to "settle down" after a little while. Perhaps the initial problem is due to loading large amounts of info into memory... or something.

We exploded 54 TNT. To freeze our systems we're probably going to need at least 200. I think we need to make more arrows. Creepers. Gunpowder. Kaboom.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 30, 2011, 02:16:55 AM
>ctrl+alt+del
>Processes
>right click on java
>set priority
>click on high
>? ? ? ? ?
>Monkeys!!!

Don't set it to real time. Apparently that will open dimensional rift to a universe full of people that wank on and on about a couple of rich spoilt brats getting married. Sorry about that everyone. Sorry.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on April 30, 2011, 03:31:24 AM
Don't set it to real time. Apparently that will open dimensional rift to a universe full of people that wank on and on about a couple of rich spoilt brats getting married. Sorry about that everyone. Sorry.

On MY anniversary, no doubt. Assholes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 30, 2011, 09:29:28 AM
I was trying to think of a good way to turn gravel to flint. How about this? Bust out a section of glass to make a temporary shaft to the bottom of one of the mine pits. One person stands on top dropping gravel as fast as they can. Another person at the bottom mines it away as fast as they can. You could go through a few stacks pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 30, 2011, 10:18:44 AM
There's an easier way to do it if it still works.

Place a torch on a block.  Stand 5-6 blocks above it and place the gravel in a block above the torch.  The gravel will fall, and the torch will break it.  Putting a ladder on the 5-6 blocks above the torch can make this even more efficient.

I tested it earlier today and it broke the 31 gravel but I got no flint, might take awhile.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 30, 2011, 12:26:11 PM
Don't set it to real time. Apparently that will open dimensional rift to a universe full of people that wank on and on about a couple of rich spoilt brats getting married. Sorry about that everyone. Sorry.

On MY anniversary, no doubt. Assholes.
Happy Anniersary, Tained!

There's an easier way to do it if it still works.

Place a torch on a block.  Stand 5-6 blocks above it and place the gravel in a block above the torch.  The gravel will fall, and the torch will break it.  Putting a ladder on the 5-6 blocks above the torch can make this even more efficient.

I tested it earlier today and it broke the 31 gravel but I got no flint, might take awhile.
This method produces no flint because the torch-break is a glitch. It'll only reproduce gravel tiles.

Indeed, Super, two men makes lighter work.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 30, 2011, 12:53:17 PM
There are a few stacks of flint in the chest, are you going to make arrows en masse?

I got disconnected a few times before I could finish some touches on our tower's cloud.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 30, 2011, 14:14:33 PM
What Pianoman said. Good way to get gravel, just no flint.

Yes, I turn the flint into tnt by way of arrows and then gunpowder.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on April 30, 2011, 16:03:45 PM
Happy Anniersary, Tained!

::giggles:: Typo much?  :) Thank you, dear. It was very happy, indeed.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 30, 2011, 16:13:03 PM
Sexy good time!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on April 30, 2011, 16:28:45 PM
Naked, sexy good time.  I hurt  ;D
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on April 30, 2011, 16:29:20 PM
Do you have naked people in this Minecraft of yours?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 30, 2011, 17:54:42 PM
Do you have naked people in this Minecraft of yours?
Alas, that's one of the things that are missing.

Superman. Help! What started off as a simple reed delivery has turned into a week-long adventure. After you left yesterday I wrangled greensteam into an adventure. We wandered northwest and built a memorial tower (1). Soon after, I returned to the temple while greensteam stayed at the new tower. Greensteam, in need of reeds, started back towards the temple and promptly got lost. I decided to try and take them to him myself and promptly got even loster.

I didn't just get lost with a vague sense of where I am. I got really lost. I found ice that stretched as far as I could see (2) — and I took that second screenshot with render distance set to "far".

And so, after days of wandering, I found this (3). An oasis in the bloody snowlocked mountains. I have no idea where I am, but I'm glad there are eight beds here! The lava is a wonderful touch. Can you tell me how to get home?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on April 30, 2011, 18:51:46 PM
I wasn't in need of reeds, I said I found some and was going to go back to the temple if there weren't any there, but the rest is true.

Slimes, they can push you up ladders!

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/brightcatseye/slimepushingmeupladder.png)

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 01, 2011, 08:21:49 AM
That tower is awesome.

You're just north of the westbound road. Head straight south. You'll be about halfway between spawn and Ryan's base.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 01, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
That tower is awesome.

You're just north of the westbound road. Head straight south. You'll be about halfway between spawn and Ryan's base.
Thank you. I must say, though, that I am most impressed by this tower in the snow. I really had no idea where I was and I had been wandering for days. This wasn't just a shack to overnight in—it's a palace to luxuriate in! And it looks great inside! I've stocked it up with cooked pork for the next lost wanderer. I really took a few wrong turns.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 03, 2011, 09:19:02 AM
Sounds like Neather is coming for 1.6.

Speaking of. Can you guys both make sure you have the current program with the log in screen and the option to update? We got lucky last time, but usually we have some pretty big delays getting the server updated. I want to make sure you guys can still play while we wait for that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 03, 2011, 17:58:40 PM
Sounds like Neather is coming for 1.6.

Speaking of. Can you guys both make sure you have the current program with the log in screen and the option to update? We got lucky last time, but usually we have some pretty big delays getting the server updated. I want to make sure you guys can still play while we wait for that.
Oo, Nether! Excursions wearing diamond armour!

Yeah, sure, I'll take a look. Maybe there's an updated client. I'll report back later.

Update: I downloaded the new client but it won't log in. I tried updating to Java 6 Update 25 but it won't work (I currently have Update 24 installed). I also tried removing my .minecraft folder (maybe the new client would recreate the games files) but that also failed. I also tried the alternative client, offered from minecraft.net/download.jsp, for when the primary option fails for some reason. It also didn't work.

tl;dr The new client won't work for me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 04, 2011, 03:19:28 AM
Yeah. It sounds like they found a way to get it to load the way it already has to load two set of chunks.

What the crap? ...how? I can't figure out what's going on with your setup. I can't even figure out how you were ever logging in and updating with the old launcher. I'm not qualified to help. Sorry.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 04, 2011, 09:46:47 AM
I can't even figure out how you were ever logging in and updating with the old launcher.
The old launcher never had a problem, although I understand that it used http, while the new launcher uses https. I'll continue researching, as I'm sure that others have had problems with the new launcher.

Update: So, after fruitless research, I once again downloaded the latest client (I had deleted it after trying it yesterday) and today it worked! I'm guessing that by cleaning out my .minecraft folder, and letting the old client repopulate it, the new client had the latest game files to work with. However it worked, I'm set with the new client, so I can choose when to update… :D

P.S. Where'd you get your skin from, Superman?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 05, 2011, 01:37:53 AM
Yahoo! Now watch him update right on the update from now on.

http://www.minecraftskins.com/
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 07, 2011, 11:52:08 AM
Quarter of spawn gone.
Work on new area around spawn.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 07, 2011, 13:16:11 PM
Wow, you're making a huge circle! That's gonna be massive. I look forward to having a working train network.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 07, 2011, 18:06:28 PM
Spawn to temple in two minutes. Try it out. Get a cart out of the chest, put it up against the chest, pull the lever, and cross your fingers that it doesn't crash your game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 08, 2011, 13:28:10 PM
More lava!!!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 08, 2011, 13:46:38 PM
More lava is always good.

I got kicked and didn't know what I wanted to do anyway so I didn't try to get back on.

I have to think of something to do for my castle besides the idea I told pianoman earlier.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 08, 2011, 13:51:46 PM
Argh! You keep out-awesoming me. Although, the temple gives me much credit. The new spawn point looks really, really good. I assume you will turn it into some sort of description of the cardinal points?

I've been watching the Yogscast Minecraft show and I'm beginning to get inspired to create an adventure for you guys. That might come later, though. First, the temple. I've finished building the sky castle's grounds now. You and greensteam are free to create your own little town in there ;) I think he wants to make a red light district—something about Lankylanders enjoying that idea.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 10, 2011, 11:30:51 AM
@Super: Just to let you know, the server's down for me. "Connection: Refused Connect". Was down yesterday, waited until this morning to ensure it wasn't temporary, and is still down.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 10, 2011, 17:12:11 PM
Same for me, and just checked a second ago, no change.

I have an idea for the temple, to have a small lava fountain to throw in your offerings.  How does this sound?

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 10, 2011, 19:29:54 PM
I think it's a Minecraft problem and not a server problem. Anyway, I started a personal game to play in the meantime :P

I have an idea for the temple, to have a small lava fountain to throw in your offerings.  How does this sound?
I love all ideas! I like that we will all contribute to the temple in some way. If you have design ideas or think something I've already done could look better, speak up! As for this idea—it's excellent. Is lava too aggressive, though? We could just have a water fountain, which would have the added advantage of being able to see if anyone else has made an offering recently.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 10, 2011, 19:50:02 PM
We could do water, that might be better.  The reason I said lava was because I was messing with lava I found in single player.  I was trying to see what was under a lava pool, all I found was 2 redstone blocks.  I started bringing buckets up to my base and I made this.

(click to show/hide)

Here's the second thing I tried to do with the lava, have it go down some blocks.  I then tested it on stairs, but lava goes over them like they are normal blocks.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 11, 2011, 03:35:37 AM
I checked the admin and it says the server is up. That's all I know how to do. If I can check that from here, it seems like that would indicate it's broadcasting. If you've seen something that suggests there's a Minecraft wide problem, I guess I'll just sit and wait.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 11, 2011, 13:10:22 PM
If you've seen something that suggests there's a Minecraft wide problem, I guess I'll just sit and wait.
Yeah, another friend's server gave me the same error shortly after I was booted from your server. I'll ask him what he did to fix it and report back once I know.

@greensteam: Lava stream is pretty… I say go for it. Once we get back on!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 12, 2011, 00:15:19 AM
@Superman: what my friend did:
Quote
Friend: I checked the server and noticed the program had quit unexpectedly. Too tired to bother checking the logs, I restarted it, hoping there would soon be a new version.

<--- how 96% of IT problems are solved

Me: The program? The program serving us Minecraft?

Friend: minecraft_server.jar
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 12, 2011, 02:27:42 AM
That doesn't mean much, but I'm passing it on. Doing a full stop and start now in case that's all it needs.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 12, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
I don't know anything about running a Minecraft server either. I just tried to log on to no avail.

:(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 12, 2011, 19:12:04 PM
I've been anti-texture packs since I started playing Minecraft. There were very few nice textures for a small number of items/tiles, so I never used them, opting instead to alter some of my own textures. Today, however, I customised a Painterly texture pack for myself—and I'm impressed. I saw it utilised very well in a Yogscast adventure (Gourd Avenger) in an Asian theme, so I decided to take a look.

This post is probably more for Superman who, like me, is staunchly anti-mod. The texture pack sticks with Minecraft's default 16x16 tile sizes but provides you with a ridiculously large range of options. For example, there are 48 choices of vegetation to be used for flowers and mushrooms.

I think the real strength of this pack is that you can pick and choose textures for most items. It takes a very long time to go through but I'm very happy with the look.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 13, 2011, 02:18:31 AM
I'll have him restart it locally tonight as long as he's not stuck at work all night. We're sort of fighting to keep our jobs right now and he's the union president of his chapter. There hasn't been a lot of free time lately.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 13, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
Sounds like they're ditching the booster glitch. MC forums are inundated. I have some things to try out now that I can actually run carts next to each other without them going all crazy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 13, 2011, 10:33:05 AM
I'll have him restart it locally tonight as long as he's not stuck at work all night. We're sort of fighting to keep our jobs right now and he's the union president of his chapter. There hasn't been a lot of free time lately.
That's cool, keep your jobs. Minecraft can wait.


Sounds like they're ditching the booster glitch. MC forums are inundated. I have some things to try out now that I can actually run carts next to each other without them going all crazy.
Too much crap on the MC forums. It takes ages to sift through the crap to find something you actually want. But I'm glad to hear the booster glitch is going. It bodes well for our road network :)
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 13, 2011, 13:22:38 PM
Up!

Looks like it crashed when Greensteam got on Sunday.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 13, 2011, 13:52:19 PM
I broke it?  :(  I blame creepers.  Even if none were near me when I got on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 13, 2011, 20:45:42 PM
He rode the rails on Sunday but I think he'd been off them for a while before it crashed.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 14, 2011, 00:15:16 AM
Oh, I wasn't saying it was anything Greensteam did, just... if you want someone to blame, he was the last one on.

Get the lynching rope.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 14, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
LOL, neither was I, but it might help to explain inexplicable crashes.

I'll sneak up behind him.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 15, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
I'm not sure how to light up the spawn enough to stop mobs from spawning. I laid out some cobble in a shape that isn't horrible, but any ideas would be very welcome.

Also, raised the roof in the tree farm three blocks and got more birch growing. Hopefully that'll make it easier to harvest.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 15, 2011, 11:59:03 AM
Alright, I'll head back to spawn shortly and take a look for ye.

In other news, back at the sky castle, I tried laying out some steps from the ground up to the castle. I had successfully made a little platform and one line of stairs down when they suddenly disappeared. I assumed the server was lagging and had to catch up so I just disconnected for a while, however when I returned I realised that the stairs are still there but invisible! I tried destroying one of them and then re-laying new stairs but even the new tile remains invisible. You can see the shadow they cast upon the water beneath. I can also walk up these invisible stairs.

Actually, maybe some invisible stairs wouldn't be so bad for a sky castle...

P.S. I just took a train ride back to spawn. It was one of the best things since starting this world! I got up high and looked at your cobblestone at spawn—what are you trying to achieve? Aesthetics? It looks pretty nice.

P.P.S. I've just revisited my old base and there's a lot of gold in my storage room if you need it for boosters. There's also plenty of lava pools in my old mine.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 15, 2011, 17:22:38 PM
Might be a texture pack thing? I know stairs used to disappear. I thought it was fixed though.

I don't know about the spawn. Mostly light it up. Pretty would be good too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 15, 2011, 18:16:27 PM
I suppose it might have something to do with the texture pack, although I can still see the top stair AND I can see stairs placed anywhere else. I'll tinker with it and see.

Are you going to fill that cobblestone outline at the spawn point with lava?! Also, I love the diagonal lava lines you've created there. They look great.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 16, 2011, 00:42:14 AM
My plan was to dig more glass covered lava lines where the cobble is.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 16, 2011, 02:33:42 AM
My plan was to dig more glass covered lava lines where the cobble is.
Ah, even better. I look forward to seeing the result.

Also, seriously, the rail line is awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 17, 2011, 08:54:46 AM
It sounds like we're getting floor hatches.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 17, 2011, 12:25:36 PM
That'll nicely seal up my mineshaft entrances. I suppose we'll be able to hide them under tiles and such as well. Or disguise them in our floorboards.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 18, 2011, 05:44:35 AM
I want to turn that giant circle around the spawn into cart, storage, and sleeping. Having floor hatches will make that a lot easier.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 18, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Hey. Ummm, we just lost 22 diamond to lag. I was taking out some to make a new pick axe, I unintentionally dropped the remaining 22 and was unable to pick it up (lag). I got booted within 30 seconds and couldn't come back for a while. I'm back now and ze diamonds are gone.

Can we use admin power to get them back?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 18, 2011, 16:33:17 PM
I can ask. I don't know where to put that. I don't see anything on the server thing. I know there has to be a place because Ryan did it that one time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 18, 2011, 18:09:38 PM
I think the character has to be logged on. It just gets typed in the text bar (you know, by depressing “T”). If he's giving it to you, you need to be logged on with him and the diamonds will pop out in front of you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 18, 2011, 22:57:36 PM
Greensteam and I had another adventure. I think there's quite a lot of fun to this adventuring thing. You go off, you find a cave, you explore it and try not to die. Oh, and you collect 100 iron from the walls.

Anyway, I took us to a little cave right near the temple mine shaft that I found ages ago (but never explored). I can't believe we waited so long—it's positively massive and goes up and down like a determined hooker. I disconnected with greensteam in view and awoke to see the second picture. LOL.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 19, 2011, 01:14:33 AM
Haha. Better than my dirt coffins.

I got the tree farm up to about half birch. I left you three full stacks and now I'm using them for charcoal.

Also, the mountain is about a quarter hallowed out underneath now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 19, 2011, 08:36:04 AM
Super, I like that you added to the path from the temple base to the temple.  It looks nicer, and I like the random dirt blocks on the side, makes it look better.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 19, 2011, 11:07:52 AM
Three stacksy birch? Was for design or burnin’?

I hacked away at the mountain yesterday, about 1½ diamond picks’ worth. I don't have the heart to attack a mountain with stone picks. I can't believe the lag monster stole 22 diamond :(
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 19, 2011, 12:27:41 PM
Back when they were rare, you said you wanted them for decoration. I'm using the rest for turning to charcoal.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 19, 2011, 13:21:20 PM
Back when they were rare, you said you wanted them for decoration. I'm using the rest for turning to charcoal.
Ah yes, but now we can grow them!

Also, I can't join the server again. Same error: "Connection refused: connect".
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 19, 2011, 14:31:38 PM
A few hours ago I got the same thing.

I can't clean up blood like this!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 20, 2011, 02:12:32 AM
Dangit. I should have checked in last night. Sorry. I'll have to wait until I get home.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 20, 2011, 13:54:27 PM
Up.

Just for the record. It was when Greensteam was trying to log on. I'm not saying anything... I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 20, 2011, 14:06:01 PM
 :ninja:

I've started using the browser, but that's the only thing I've done differently?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 20, 2011, 14:41:50 PM
Why u no use client, gleensteam?

Ta, Superman.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 20, 2011, 14:48:49 PM
gleensteam? 

Is there a benefit to using it?  I've not felt like doing singleplayer for awhile so I deleted the client and use the browser.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 20, 2011, 14:53:45 PM
I don't really know. I've just always used the client, regardless of whether I choose to play single player or multiplayer.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 21, 2011, 02:59:51 AM
Portal in my Minecraft? It's more likely than you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWZSX0Wx4iY
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 21, 2011, 08:20:20 AM
I've started using the browser, but that's the only thing I've done differently?

I don't have any idea if that's a problem. I don't know why it would be, but I guess it's believable.

I would suggest getting the client again though. Our server doesn't always get updated right away. It'll be good to have the option to opt out of updating until the server get updated too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 21, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
Portal in my Minecraft? It's more likely than you think.
That's weirrrd. You might as well just play Portal :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 21, 2011, 12:23:29 PM
Throw in that piston mod and you can make your own Portal levels and share them right in MC.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on May 22, 2011, 20:17:15 PM
Portal in my Minecraft? It's more likely than you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWZSX0Wx4iY

OH MY GOD OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 23, 2011, 14:38:21 PM
I just thought I'd post this for motivation in our temple construction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhX7cLWaXps
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 23, 2011, 22:38:56 PM
Do we got our diamonds back yet? :(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 25, 2011, 05:51:12 AM
Oh yeah. I still have to research that. I'll try to figure it out tonight. Going out of town tomorrow.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 25, 2011, 05:51:24 AM
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With Minecraft patch 1.6 releasing this week and looking to be very big in terms of bug fixes, Notch decided to release the changelist early as well. We already know about the new map system and Nether in SMP, but check out the full list below for all of the fixes and tweaks as well.

Added Nether support to multiplayer
Added craftable maps
Added hatches
Added tall grass in some biomes
Mushrooms now spreads (very) slowly
Added server property view-distance. Sets the radius of terrain updates (in chunks) to send to the players. Range 3-15, default 10.
It’s no longer possible to build solid blocks on the top layer of the maps (sorry!)
Players stuck in walls will slide towards the nearest gap if there is one
Made booster tracks speedier
Severely nerfed fire so it spread slower, and doesn’t spread infinitely
Seeds are now found in tall grass, using a hoe on the ground no longer works
Blocks destroyed by other players in multiplayer now shows the breaking block particle effect
Activated dispensers make sounds and trigger particles in multiplayer
Doors make sound for other players in multiplayer
The record player now supports more than 15 different songs
Fixed running out of memory corrupting the current level
Fixed the side textures of grass getting extra dark when mining them
Fixed anaglyph 3d rendering mode having severe visual bugs
Fixed the crash screen vanishing immediately
Fixed not being able to target blocks when at x or z pos 1000
Fixed the achievements screen messing up the sky color
Fixed saving while sneaking dropping the player through the ground
Fixed a system clock change messing up the game speed
Fixed rain sounds not playing with fast graphics enabled
Fixed hair and cloaks being rendered in the wrong locations on sneaking players
Fixed the attack/swing animation not being applied to the armor layer
Fixed player rotation not being loaded correctly when loading a saved game
Fixed arrow physics, making them not get stuck midair when you open a door
Fixed arrows hitting reeds, portals, and other non-solid blocks
Fixed keybindings not getting saved properly under certain conditions
Fixed the player not being able to sneak off lowered blocks like cacti
Fixed a bug where the player could mine without swinging their arm
Fixed boats placed on snow being placed too far up
Fixed submerged boats rising very very fast
Fixed sand dropping onto boats getting stuck in a falling animation
Fixed a game crash when riding a vehicle or animal into the nether
Fixed falling while riding not dealing damage to the rider
Fixed buttons and levers too close to the player being impossible to use
Fixed dispensers shooting through walls
Fixed fire hurting through wall corners
Fixed entities reaching water through wall corners
Fixed placing doors next to cacti creating half-doors
Fixed buttons and levers being placeable on leaves in “fast graphics” mode
Fixed furnaces and dispensers not dropping their contents when destroyed
Fixed dispensers biasing later slots
Fixed farmland taking too long to dig
Fixed tilling below some blocks being possible
Fixed tilling the underside of blocks somehow working
Fixed fences and stairs sometimes becoming invisible
Fixed walking on top of fences not producing step sounds
Fixed fire sometimes existing mid-air as an invisible block of pain
Fixed fences and wooden stairs not being flammable
Fixed fire effect on burning entities sometimes getting rendered in the wrong location
Fixed fishing rod rendering being a bit lacking
Fixed fishing rods being stackable
Fixed mining glass hiding the clouds behind the glass
Fixed rain falling through liquids
Fixed items in glass blocks not getting ejected properly
Fixed water interacting strangely with glass
Fixed glass not blocking rain sound
Fixed fences and signs preventing grass from growing
Fixed rain and snow being incorrectly lit
Fixed grass staying alive below stair blocks
Fixed the achievement screen not pausing the game
Fixed some screens breaking the sky tint color
Fixed fullscreen mode switching causing mouse issues and screen closes
Fixed chat messages surviving through game switches
Fixed ice so it regenerates regardless of whether it’s snowing or not
Fixed rain falling too slowly
Fixed levers being placeable on weird locations
Fixed floor levers sometimes not delivering a signal downwards
Fixed floor levers sometimes not being removed when the floor is removed
Fixed rail tiles sometimes not properly connecting to a new neighbor
Fixed minecarts next to each other causing extreme velocities (sorry!)
Fixed wolves not following their owner if the name has different caps
Fixed creepers retaining charge level when they can’t see their target
Fixed dying in the nether spawning new portals
“Fixed” beds in the nether
Fixed inventory acting weird when portaling by making the portal close all screens
Fixed wooden pressure plates being mined with pickaxes
Fixed redstone repeaters having the wrong particles
Fixed saplings being plantable through snow onto non-grass blocks
Fixed ore density varying per quadrant from the center of the world
Fixed dispenser graphics being one pixel off. ONE PIXEL!!!
Fixed mushrooms spawning everywhere during nights
Fixed animals only spawning near light during the night
Fixed the multiplayer join screen input field being too short
Fixed IPv6 addresses being parsed wrongly. To connect to a specific port in IPv6, use the format [1234:567::1]:25565
Fixed network packets being sent unbuffered, causing huge amounts of packets being sent
Fixed entity positions going out of synch sometimes. They get re-synched every 20 seconds now.
Fixed inventory icons not animating after being picked up in multiplayer
Fixed mushroom soup not leaving a bowl in multiplayer
Fixed entities above the map height limit becoming invisible
Fixed healing not flashing the health bar in multiplayer
Fixed arrows being animated really strangely in multiplayer
Fixed arrows triggering too many entity move updates in multiplayer
Fixed the compass not pointing at the spawn location in multiplayer
Fixed fires being impossible to put out in multiplayer
Fixed record players spawning client-side fake records in multiplayer
Fixed records not playing for other players in multiplayer
Fixed players spawning in the wrong location and quickly lerping to the correct location
Fixed monsters not being visible for players with their difficulty set to peaceful
Fixed pigs getting hit by lightning in multiplayer spawning client-side zombie pigmen
Fixed loads of exploding tnt generating way too many particles, possibly crashing the client
Fixed bonemeal use in multiplayer sometimes spawning fake client-side trees
Fixed saplings sometimes spawning trees client-side in multiplayer
Fixed weather sometimes changing client-side in multiplayer
Fixed grasscolor.png and foliagecolor.png not being read from texture packs
Fixed stats getting saved to different files in offline mode if the caps in the player name differ from the true spelling
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 25, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
That's a lot.  I'm sure that will make people quite happy, unless he missed something.  It's still in Beta though so I imagine it only gets better. 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 25, 2011, 08:45:29 AM
Most people are happy about the bug fixes. However, head over to the MC forums and you'll find the the handful that aren't happy are certainly the loudest. I've never seen any other community (other than maybe Valve) that is so goddamned self entitled. "How dare you fix the bugs in my game!"
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 25, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
It doesn't take much to be the loudest.  I'd translate that to:

"How dare you take something familiar from me!  With no creativity, and now no glitches, I won't be able to have fun!"

I'm not worried.

Embrace the new and paint it green!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 25, 2011, 16:08:24 PM
This is why I don't visit the MC Forums anymore. It's too draining to sift through the morons and douchebags to find anyone with something interesting to say.

I'm quite happy with that extensive list of fixes. Particularly the attention to detail like "Blocks destroyed by other players in multiplayer now shows the breaking block particle effect" and "Fixed rain sounds not playing with fast graphics enabled". I was really disappointed and thought the rain sound was purposefully removed from Fast mode.

Um, also, WTF?!
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Fixed a game crash when riding a vehicle or animal into the nether
We can ride a pig into the nether??

Also, I'm glad that it looks like he's fixing the South/West glitches like fire and water reaching through corners.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on May 25, 2011, 17:48:36 PM
I'm liking the way the game is headed. I've got to start using it more. They "upgraded" the software on my computer at work and they buggered up the video drivers meaning I can no longer play Minecraft.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 25, 2011, 19:35:14 PM
I'm liking the way the game is headed. I've got to start using it more. They "upgraded" the software on my computer at work and they buggered up the video drivers meaning I can no longer play Minecraft.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Java Updates are quite finicky and backwards-incompatible. You have my condolences.

I really like where the game is heading, also.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 26, 2011, 04:29:33 AM
It is a completely different game than the one I was talking about on page one of this thread. I hated the early survival test he had back then. I couldn't imagine how that would ever be fun. Boy was I wrong.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 26, 2011, 04:34:19 AM
Messed around with the admin thing last night. I think I figured out how to do the diamond thing, but you have to be on the game. Like I said, I'm on my way out of town today, but I should be able to do it from any browser.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 26, 2011, 06:05:45 AM
Pocket Edition
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 26, 2011, 13:42:14 PM
Messed around with the admin thing last night. I think I figured out how to do the diamond thing, but you have to be on the game. Like I said, I'm on my way out of town today, but I should be able to do it from any browser.
That command I gave you will fix it: /give Treefugger 264 22 — and yes, I'll need to be online.

Interesting about the pocket edition. But I got no smartphone, so I'll leave it to you techheads.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 26, 2011, 19:57:18 PM
Added another layer around the cloud cover for the temple base.  Might destroy it to make a better design, feel free to change it if you have an idea.

Went back to the blood cave and explored a tunnel that had no torches, and was dark.  I found 25 Iron, 14 Gold, and 25 Lapis Luzuli.  I found the Lapis all in one area, that I only found because I felt like clearing all of this dirt.

I don't know if there's anything else there, feel free to explore it yourself.  It's straight across from the ladder when you go down, it has two dirt floating near the entrance.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 26, 2011, 21:27:07 PM
Told you it was big :P

Also—1.6b is here!!!!
+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer+Added Nether support to multiplayer
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on May 27, 2011, 04:44:18 AM
I still think the other one was bigger so far, at least from vague memory.

Yeah, I messed with hatches and then got bored after that and made a minecart track that goes in a small circle and put a pig in a cart and watched him have fun.  During that time I also made a map, which was cool.  It's flat when you're walking normally, but when you look down it appears to move up.  It's amusing to hit things with it, because both your hands hold it even while you move the map to hit things.

Yes, we can now have a grand adventure!

They also increased the boost from power rails, so that's another thing to experience.

For those that like BlueXephos (The Yogscast) they talk about patch 1.6 here.  Simon makes a draw-bridge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx9LELNsDXk
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on May 29, 2011, 15:11:17 PM
Smartphone Minecraft is on its way. I will pay my $20 to teh pig then, I cannot wait.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 29, 2011, 15:13:41 PM
Smartphone Minecraft is on its way. I will pay my $20 to teh pig then, I cannot wait.
You would rather play it on your phone?



I'm glad that Notch is incorporating some of the better mods in the game. First was ambient occlusion (smooth lighting) and now wild grass. I can't remember if he's incorporated anything else that others have created.

I'm stoked for travelling to the nether. We have to adventure!!

I have to say that the Minecraft show is still entertaining, though not as hilarious as it was towards the end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3. They've already incorporated some of the latest updates—the latest episode rocks.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 01, 2011, 17:29:04 PM
Yeah, I messed with hatches and then got bored after that and made a minecart track that goes in a small circle and put a pig in a cart and watched him have fun.  During that time I also made a map, which was cool.  It's flat when you're walking normally, but when you look down it appears to move up.  It's amusing to hit things with it, because both your hands hold it even while you move the map to hit things.
I'm guessing that you haven't been able to play on the server since you are now playing 1.6b?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 01, 2011, 17:47:39 PM
Yeah, I've tried a few times but it's outdated. :P

Apparently maps have a finite amount of information on them and you need to make more or something.

1.6.6

+ Added a new use for bonemeal
* Changed the material of glowstone from “glass” to “stone”. This means you need a pickaxe to get resources from it
* Made glowstone drop more loot
* Made the recipe sizes for creating cloth blocks and glowstone blocks smaller (2x2 instead of 3x3)
* Re-introduced unlimited FPS, renamed the option again
* Fixed beds not working very well at all in SMP
* Fixed destroying a boat spawning the player too low, causing them to sometimes fall through the ground
* Boats float up to the surface quicker
* Boats falling down into water lose their vertical momentum very fast
* Removed Herobrine

I haven't figured out what bonemeal's new use is. 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 01, 2011, 22:52:53 PM
I'll give a "fuck yes!" more glowstone loot and being made with 2x2 instead of 3x3—that feels much more balanced.

"removed Herobrine"... hahahaha.

Apparently maps have a finite amount of information on them and you need to make more or something.
Yah, I knew about that from somewhere. Maybe someone from Mojang made a video about maps already? Also, you can notice it in the video you posted from the Yogscast.


I haven't been motivated to work in our server since it stole the diamonds :\ But I gotta say these latest updates are all very good for adding enjoyment.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 02, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
I think when you get those diamonds back you'll go far away to the mountains.  You'll travel deep into the tunnels, into the dark, and live near streams inside the cave.  You'll live off fish, you'll sleep on the rocks, always holding and whispering "My precious..." as you pet them. 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 02, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
I think when you get those diamonds back you'll go far away to the mountains.  You'll travel deep into the tunnels, into the dark, and live near streams inside the cave.  You'll live off fish, you'll sleep on the rocks, always holding and whispering "My precious..." as you pet them. 
:o

And then you guys have to find me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 02, 2011, 10:46:57 AM
Sounds like a plan, except we'd need a vague hint of direction or clues (redstone as footprints/blood from a wound) and it sucks that we can see your name from a distance.  If we could turn that off it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 03, 2011, 02:31:31 AM
I haven't been motivated to work in our server since it stole the diamonds :\ But I gotta say these latest updates are all very good for adding enjoyment.

Just let me know when you're on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 03, 2011, 14:18:22 PM
Sounds like a plan, except we'd need a vague hint of direction or clues (redstone as footprints/blood from a wound) and it sucks that we can see your name from a distance.  If we could turn that off it'd be perfect.
That would be rad, wouldn't it :\ Although, I think that given the size of the world, the name tag isn't so bad. I might go very far away, and you can only see me when I'm within a relatively short range.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 03, 2011, 15:03:24 PM
It might work, though a fair warning.  If I leave the server, or it's been a few days (real days) then I'd think about coming back because I've probably become bored. :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 03, 2011, 18:09:36 PM
It might work, though a fair warning.  If I leave the server, or it's been a few days (real days) then I'd think about coming back because I've probably become bored. :P
Hmm, professional tracking in Minecraft. Interesting. You could follow obvious campsites, random blocks that have been destroyed and left floating, maybe the remains of a campfire.. any way in which the environment has been altered from what is natural.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 03, 2011, 18:14:39 PM
Or big massive cobblestone huts.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 04, 2011, 00:14:21 AM
Or big massive cobblestone huts.
I think Superman is suggesting we track him. Alright. Did you head due east from the temple?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 04, 2011, 02:09:41 AM
Haha. No, I was just giving an example of what my "subtle" clues that I've been somewhere are.

Besides, I got to a lake and decided I should build a dock to indicate where I should aim coming back. Then I decided the dock needed a boat house. It got carried away from there. I think I'm ready to start moving again next time I get on.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 04, 2011, 23:09:26 PM
Besides, I got to a lake and decided I should build a dock to indicate where I should aim coming back. Then I decided the dock needed a boat house. It got carried away from there. I think I'm ready to start moving again next time I get on.
This is what I love about Minecraft. It has this real open-world feel. You can sculpt anything you see.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 08, 2011, 06:30:50 AM
We are 1.6.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 09, 2011, 04:02:29 AM
Tall grass looks really nice. It adds a nice organic feel to the world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 10, 2011, 02:04:06 AM
I just realised that you meant "our server is now upgraded to 1.6". I had thought it was some reference to "we are legion". I guess it's now time for me to upgrade.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 10, 2011, 03:02:25 AM
Oh, yes, server is now 1.6.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 11, 2011, 07:05:35 AM
Someone sent me this for recording games. Wish I had this for pig riding day. I still have to turn all those pictures into an animated gif.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on June 11, 2011, 12:37:47 PM
Someone sent me this for recording games. Wish I had this for pig riding day. I still have to turn all those pictures into an animated gif.

oooh that would be great for giant sloth riding day
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 11, 2011, 19:13:44 PM
Oh, well. We can always find more saddles :)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 13, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
I tested out the Nether today.

You know those shacks I like to make? If you ever see this variation, it has a portal in it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on June 13, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
Oh, dude, that is COOL.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 13, 2011, 16:41:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8kQgI.jpg

Feel bad and then inspiration to improve and work on your temple!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 13, 2011, 17:58:12 PM
Holy shit.

I've actually been thinking about the temple lately. However, I'm currently working on a long distance project. It might be a while until I get back to the main area, but I really hope I end up with something that will make it worth it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 13, 2011, 19:00:06 PM
I tested out the Nether today.

You know those shacks I like to make? If you ever see this variation, it has a portal in it.
You must've been quite busy to obtain some obsidian! Are you still incredibly distant from the temple? I'll be happy to stumble upon your nethershack but I don't think I'll find it anytime soon.

http://i.imgur.com/8kQgI.jpg
Feel bad and then inspiration to improve and work on your temple!
It's OK. The picture I have in my head of the finished temple includes much more incredible architecture. But I want to complete the external pillars before continuing inside, since I'm designing it on-the-fly. I wouldn't want to mess up any measurements. I gotta start clearing more mountain before I can do that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 13, 2011, 19:07:47 PM
To the mountains!

Also, I changed the colors of my 'psychedelic cloud cover' to a simple pattern of red/orange/yellow.  While taking back the purple, and blue wool, when I 'punched them' they fell and I couldn't find any but one purple.  It was odd, and I'm sad to lose a few color blocks, though it's not too big a loss.

The pattern is something like this

O-R-Y-O-R-Y-O
Y-O-R-Y-O-R-Y
O-R-Y-O-R-Y-O
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 13, 2011, 19:14:35 PM
That can be a temple chant.
Oryoryo.
Yoryor.
Oryoryo.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on June 13, 2011, 19:24:08 PM
Just to give you more ideas that you'll love so much you'll have to do.

What about....creating a texture pack... for the server?

 :supersmile:
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 14, 2011, 02:43:07 AM
You must've been quite busy to obtain some obsidian! Are you still incredibly distant from the temple? I'll be happy to stumble upon your nethershack but I don't think I'll find it anytime soon.

Yes, I've spent an ungodly amount on the last few days. I'm not sure why.

Yeah, I think I'm pretty far away. I'll make it easier to find when I'm done.

As soon as I'm done, I'll be back to demolish some mountain.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 15, 2011, 22:53:07 PM
As soon as I'm done, I'll be back to demolish some mountain.
Take your time. As long as y'all promise not to abandon our great mission, we can take as many side trips as we desire.

What about....creating a texture pack... for the server?
lol. I'm not that good. But I'd be willing to give it a try. You can provide feedback. And we go on from there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 16, 2011, 02:46:35 AM
I swear I'll be back to finish off that mountain no matter what.

Oh, do you still have that picture of your original layout for the temple? We should get another picture at the same angle to see how massively out of control it got.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 16, 2011, 02:54:01 AM
I swear I'll be back to finish off that mountain no matter what.

Oh, do you still have that picture of your original layout for the temple? We should get another picture at the same angle to see how massively out of control it got.
Actually, I was planning to surprise you but... I've steadily been taking pictures of the temple site throughout development. That why I built the obsidian platform. You know, my sign saying "Perspective: please leave this here"? Yeah, I was gonna create some sort of montage to show how the site has changed.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 16, 2011, 02:56:24 AM
Oooo!

I'll just wipe that from my brain now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 21, 2011, 21:43:35 PM
I definitely like the new orange/red/yellow cloud design, greensteam. Looks nicer.

So after a hiatus I logged on and chipped away at the mountain until my iron pick ran out. I'll come back with a diamond one later. I looked around and it was pretty amazing to come back to see what we've built. I wondered at my own patience in building those shafts down to the bedrock but thanks for joining in and building tree farms, extending the mine halls and leaving guard dogs around.

I won't be satisfied until I finish that temple.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 22, 2011, 04:08:28 AM
I read a bit about making mobs for persistent and slowing the spawn rate down a lot. That should be cool. I'd love to have a sheep farm.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 22, 2011, 23:45:47 PM
I read a bit about making mobs for persistent and slowing the spawn rate down a lot.
Sorry, what?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 23, 2011, 01:24:03 AM
Mobs wouldn't despawn. So you could herd 20 pigs into a fenced off area and two days later they'd still be there.

Presumably, this would go hand in hand with the return of sheep regrowing their wool, and the introduction of pigs and cows getting it on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on June 23, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
Pigs and cows getting it on?  You are a sick man.

Although... I guess the resulting offspring would be called a Pow.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 24, 2011, 04:58:47 AM
Cows and pigs living together. Mass hysteria!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on June 27, 2011, 15:45:26 PM
Pigs and cows getting it on?  You are a sick man.

Although... I guess the resulting offspring would be called a Pow.

And it would taste SOOOO GOOOD.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 29, 2011, 04:58:04 AM
Minecraft mod for Crysis 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0bAun5WXFw&feature=player_embedded#at=176

And a fun high res reimagining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KfhOVOHmWA&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on July 01, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Hahaha, that hi-res video looked great! I reckon there might be something to it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 06, 2011, 07:27:19 AM
Yeah. I've seen people talk about high resolution MC before, but I never got why you'd want that. Now I get it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 06, 2011, 11:16:20 AM
Maybe you guys already know, but I just found out. We are 1.7.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 09, 2011, 08:38:11 AM
After struggling for hours to build a decent piston driven door, my roommate sent me this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnn8MjaYIUw
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on July 11, 2011, 20:24:22 PM
Maybe you guys already know, but I just found out. We are 1.7.
Holy shit, I didn't realise, I have barely Minecrafted. But I will now!

[...]
LOL, except it seems that the server is not yet 1.7. Oopsdongs!


After struggling for hours to build a decent piston driven door, my roommate sent me this.

<snip snip... troll movie>
WTF?!

And, uh... we have pistons in Minecraft?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 12, 2011, 03:22:54 AM
Yes. 1.7 has pistons.

Power went out last night. Phenomenal storm. I'll see what I can do to get the server back up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 12, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
Back up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on July 12, 2011, 21:04:26 PM
You know, with all the updates to how the world forms (e.g. ravines and NPC villages) we may need to start a new world. We have collectively travelled extensively and loaded many chunks in our current world. I took a train ride/walk east of the temple, to where we were going to set up a mountain castle, and just that site is a fair whack away.

On the way to the eastern mountain castle site, I saw single blocks sitting in the water off in the distance. At first, I thought you'd gone and been creative. Then I realised that ice was forming—in a desert biome?! I created a minute-long stopshot (or whatever you call it) film of the ice forming in front of me.

<attach>

OK, so it looks like I got the ice forming backwards... oops.. but you get the idea.

Also, I just watched this video demonstrating pistons. I thought it was pretty cool that you could block water. Then, I had an OMG moment from about 2m35s into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJr86d2IUo
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 13, 2011, 05:31:07 AM
Yeah. That was the kind of door I was trying to create.  I did make a much cooler door, but I could only operate it with a complicated series of levers. The redstone wiring to make it work should be possible, but it's beyond me. I ended up scaling it down to a (not so) simple 2X3 door.

I've read about the ice thing not working. I was under the impression that they figured it out though.

I'll make an argument for keeping the world that we have. Besides all the work we've put in here, especially lately, the world is near infinitely huge. With beds, you can change your center at any time. If you want to start all over, just walk in one direction for long enough, and you essentially have a brand new world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on July 13, 2011, 11:37:57 AM
It annoys me that you have to be a good logic coder to use redstone, but I never like to give up, so I will figure it out. I also have yet to create some good music in Minecraft because the redstone logic eluded me. I've seen the setup for Michael Jackson's Billie Jean and it was possibly the most awesome use of music blocks that I've seen.

As for keeping the current world: I would prefer to keep the world for the history we've created in it but wouldn't a larger world cause lag? Or has that problem been resolved?

P.S. You created a much cooler door? WHERE?!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 13, 2011, 15:22:02 PM
The only lag should be from loaded chunks. So three people on in three different places makes it suck. It should be fine otherwise.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 20, 2011, 08:59:53 AM
I looks like he's playing with the idea of increasing the map height. I would love that so much.

link
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on July 20, 2011, 21:02:27 PM
That is GREAT! I can see lots of lag coming into our games, though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 21, 2011, 01:16:57 AM
Maybe. I guess I have to believe that when we get the final release, it'll have to be ported out of Java and most of those problems will go away. I run games on this machine that should be far bigger resource hog and run slightly better than MC. I think the final version is going to run just fine on even older machines.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on July 27, 2011, 07:03:38 AM
Holy shit.

3D printing out of Minecraft.

http://www.minecraftprint.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CLfNIZ4LNo
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 08, 2011, 01:24:15 AM
Holy shit, indeed. Imagine printing out our temple once it's created?!

Also, I haven't been able to log on to your server this weekend. Keeps refusing my connection.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 08, 2011, 05:32:22 AM
Hmmmm, power went out earlier in the week. Maybe I forgot to have him restart the server.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 11, 2011, 10:43:16 AM
No one log in for a while. We're porting to a dedicated gaming server. It'll be a few bucks a month, but it should run better and we won't have downtime anymore. Details to come.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 11, 2011, 21:41:57 PM
ooOOOOooOOOO... *bated breath*
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 12, 2011, 17:30:53 PM
We now have a dedicated server. On an actual server though Tree Puncher. This should handle multiple players far better, maintain a substantially better uptime, and we should be able to keep up with updates a lot better.

It's a five slot server (which is about two more than we've ever used to date), with a basic Bukkit mod, and a dedicated IP. If anyone owns or wants to buy a domain name to point to it, that should be pretty easy. We can also pay for more slots if that every becomes necessary.

The price comes out to $9.50 a month. Donations are welcome, but don't feel obligated at all.

IP: 184.164.129.190

Donations: www.wepay.com/group/view/23175

I'll repost this information back at the first post of the thread so it's always easy to find.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on August 16, 2011, 20:21:02 PM
I got a domain that I can point at it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 16, 2011, 22:29:51 PM
I tried out the server last night. I didn't have any of the old lag, so it seems better. We'll be able to test it better when we all jump on together.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 18, 2011, 00:58:39 AM
Another pillar has been erected and sandstone harvested. I decided to wander off and find the watch tower greensteam and I built. A smile crept across my face when I spotted one of his trademark clouds off in the distance.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 18, 2011, 04:31:05 AM
Nether doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Not sure why. We toyed with some settings, but it didn't seem to do anything. It's on the back burner for now. If anyone wants to get to the Nether, let me know and I'll bump figuring it out to the top of my list.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on August 18, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
I knew it'd be a good idea to make that.  I was on a few days ago and got kicked off a few times.  I think it was the same error, but I can't remember it now.

Outside the temple barracks I was messing with some sticky pistons, and realize I am terrible with them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 18, 2011, 09:39:43 AM
I don't know how much is the server and how much is the buggy game. If you are having trouble logging in or anything else to do with the server, let me know. We have professional tech support now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 18, 2011, 11:37:52 AM
Nether doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Not sure why.
Just on your server or all multiplayer servers? I haven't visited the Nether in multiplayer yet but I would like to.

I knew it'd be a good idea to make that.
You bet your arse it was. I saw that cloud from so far away. It gave me a great sense of location, not to mention that I found it much faster than I otherwise would have.

Outside the temple barracks I was messing with some sticky pistons, and realize I am terrible with them.
Yeah, I saw your testing. I think that to be good with pistons you should also be logical with redstone.

Quote from: www.minecraftforum.net
"Scrolls" Lawsuit, Pt. 2


Notch feels he has a solution to the pending lawsuit between Mojang and Bethesda - a Quake 3 tournament! He provided the following stipulations:

"Three of our best warriors against three of your best warriors. We select one level, you select the other, we randomize the order. 20 minute matches, highest total frag count per team across both levels wins.

If we win, you drop the lawsuit.

If you win, we will change the name of Scrolls to something you’re fine with."

As of this writing, Bethesda has not responded to the challenge.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on August 18, 2011, 11:49:12 AM
Indeed, so it's time to practice a lot.

I like how Notch deals with things.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 18, 2011, 11:50:25 AM
It seems like we're all online at the moment. Shall we all jump on to test the server and/or play?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 18, 2011, 14:38:28 PM
Sorry. I was in a meeting all night.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on August 18, 2011, 17:23:11 PM
That's okay, we ran around a bit, built a tower, made a cloud out of half wood blocks because we didn't have 49 wool to cover the 7x7 tower. 

Right now we're in a cave not too far from the tower, on our way back to the temple.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 19, 2011, 00:11:28 AM
a bit = about 5½ hours

And the 7x7 tower is a new watch tower a day or so walk north. I've attached a picture of greensteam building the wooden cloud, along with some other shots from the journey.

P.S. Superman, I'm looking forward to the adventure. When can we see it? Hopefully the 1.8 update won't force us to create new worlds.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 19, 2011, 06:33:50 AM
Honestly, no time soon. I've had to create a whole new base of operations to gather all the material needed. I finally have enough iron. I'm still struggling with wood and have to add to my tree farm all the time. I really bit off more than I could chew here which is why I've been quiet about it. No sense getting hope up too early. I will finish it though, and I don't even mind claiming it'll be awesome, because it already is even in its unfinished state.

In other news. Holy crap. I bug Hades all the time to just cough up the couple of bucks and come join us. That picture might have done more to convince him than anything I've said.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 19, 2011, 20:46:50 PM
Such a shame you're low on iron—greensteam and I have collected much on our little adventures.

As for the temple... yes, it is rather grand, isn't it? Since I always feel my way back home, I always return from a different vector. In this case, we climbed up and over that mountain to the side of the temple. It looked more impressive than usual. Perhaps it will convince Hades, but I understand he is probably busy with work and baby. If, however, he is playing games anyway... then he should just join us. Didn't you guys all regularly play Minecraft Classic a year or so ago?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 20, 2011, 02:43:56 AM
Yeah, he used to play on that server. Also, he payed money for the crappy iPhone knock off version. I have no idea what his deal is that he doesn't just want to play the real deal.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 20, 2011, 08:59:08 AM
Pork, beef, and lamb
Rivers
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 20, 2011, 22:22:20 PM
Yeah, he used to play on that server. Also, he payed money for the crappy iPhone knock off version. I have no idea what his deal is that he doesn't just want to play the real deal.
LOL, well that doesn't make sense. Hades, come join us! Good, cheap game!

@ Superman: I saw that meat picture the other day, but the rivers are new to me. Lanky mentioned something about rivers and that they would have water flow. That is so cool. I wonder if different rivers will have different strengths of current.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on August 22, 2011, 19:01:47 PM
IP: 184.164.129.190

You can now use minecraft.lankyland.com instead of having to remember the IP Address.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 22, 2011, 20:16:52 PM
IP: 184.164.129.190

You can now use minecraft.lankyland.com instead of having to remember the IP Address.
YES! Yes! Oh, god yes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on August 23, 2011, 00:51:00 AM
YES! Yes! Oh, god yes.
It sounds like you like it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 23, 2011, 05:10:53 AM
I spent hours last night trying to get one of the mapper programs to work. I just cant figure out how to get the file I need off of the server. There are files that are labeled the right thing, but they're far too small to be the actual level file. I'm just not sure. I'll keep working on it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 23, 2011, 21:37:22 PM
I spent hours last night trying to get one of the mapper programs to work. I just cant figure out how to get the file I need off of the server. There are files that are labeled the right thing, but they're far too small to be the actual level file. I'm just not sure. I'll keep working on it.
I never imagined it would be so difficult. I'll see if I can dig up any good info.

Also, just FYI, the server seems to have been incredibly laggy the past two nights. Last night, I was constantly being booted. Maybe it's just temporary, given that greensteam and I were logged on together for several hours last Thursday without much negative effect.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on August 23, 2011, 22:24:48 PM
Hours of exploring a cave, sweaty, exhausted, and out of pork chops the two adventurers finally made it outside.  The sun wasn't there to greet them, just cold air, and the sound of leaves shaking in the wind.  For one adventurer it was too much, Treefugger couldn't take another step and blacked out, still standing on his legs. 

Suddenly a wild skeleton archer suddenly ambushed them, suddenly drawing his bow to suddenly fire upon the adventurers.  Only one adventurer was conscious and he would have to fight him alone.  It was a fight to the sudden death, suddenly.

brightcatseye got shot in the arm, but it was only a flesh wound and he charged again, striking at the skeleton's face.  The skeleton archer vanished and they were safe, for now.

Treefugger woke up, dazed and confused.  He was wondering why there were arrows surrounding him.  It was time to return to the temple, and the adventurers knew they were in for a long night.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 24, 2011, 00:55:47 AM
Yes, I bloody blacked out right when a skeleton descended upon us. Thanks for saving me! I was obviously dazed. Look at me, staring blankly up at the stars.

Do you realise that's the first time I've ever seen myself? I'm quite proud of that skin. Do you guys still want me to have a go at creating a Lankyland texture pack? I can't imagine I'd do justice to any of the texture packs made by the pros.

Anyway, I wanted to share this very well made Minecraft music video. I think it was definitely made to give satisfaction to us adventure players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 26, 2011, 02:41:20 AM
I created a time lapse picture of the creation of a new pillar.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 26, 2011, 03:01:41 AM
Awesome. I can't wait to see one for the whole temple.

What's the red stuff on the mountain? I'm not familiar with your texture pack.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 26, 2011, 20:41:21 PM
Awesome. I can't wait to see one for the whole temple.
:) I can create an interim time lapse if you don't want to wait 'til we finish the temple. I imagine temple completion will not be for some time.

What's the red stuff on the mountain? I'm not familiar with your texture pack.
It's from the Painterly pack, which I've been using for a little while now. It has multiple texture options for each tile. I got reeled in when I saw a beautiful use of it in one of the Yogscast videos—white snow/cloth bordered by a dark wood. The red that you can see on the mountain is actually the remnants of a tree I hacked through to finish the foundations for the temple stairs on that side. I thought I'd switch to autumn colours for a little while!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 27, 2011, 02:36:25 AM
No. I want to wait and see it all at once.

Also, that reminds me. I left that northern shoreline a bit of a mess before I wondered off. I hope my intention is apparent or at least easy to work around.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 29, 2011, 02:04:54 AM
Excellent. Patience will make the final product sweeter.

I don't think I've gone far enough to get confused by what you left. I just continued the stair foundations through until I didn't have any more mountain to cut through. I actually spent quite a bit of time before that point excavating the sand and sandstone underneath the foundations. I figured it would go to waste if we just covered it all up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 29, 2011, 07:50:45 AM
I started tossing a ton of gravel into the shoreline where it cuts into the line of the temple. I think I made a line where I think the shoreline should end up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 29, 2011, 14:42:09 PM
Map!!!

I took a long, long time, but here it is, in its 7mb of glory. Download it to really appreciate the level of detail.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Hades ☠ on August 29, 2011, 16:20:53 PM
Yes, I bloody blacked out right when a skeleton descended upon us. Thanks for saving me! I was obviously dazed. Look at me, staring blankly up at the stars.

Do you realise that's the first time I've ever seen myself? I'm quite proud of that skin. Do you guys still want me to have a go at creating a Lankyland texture pack? I can't imagine I'd do justice to any of the texture packs made by the pros.

Anyway, I wanted to share this very well made Minecraft music video. I think it was definitely made to give satisfaction to us adventure players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM

Guy was totally unprepared for a creeper. And at NIGHT too. Shame on him.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on August 29, 2011, 17:31:13 PM
As you may know, every now and again I've been testing quicker ways of getting to the bottom floor of the Temple Barracks.

This is my current solution.  Tested it with just one space, but you can be slightly off and instantly die!  Oh no.  We've learned from that, and tripled it's size!

Mind the fence!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 29, 2011, 21:09:24 PM
@greensteam: That fall is incredibly scary but the water break is well made. I made it on the first try.

@Superman: I've attached a shot of the latest pillars from the other side. That red arrow around the centre is where your gravel line lies, which is about 2-3 metres further than the 5 metre lawn I made.

Also: Oh. Your. God. That map is TOTALLY AWESOME! Just to be able to see the scale of our world; to see how far we've travelled and the magnitude of our construction. For example, do you realise it's even further to the far eastern site from temple than it is from 0,0 to the temple? It's about 1450 pixels between 0,0 and temple, while it's about 2000 between temple and the far east.

And my giant tree! You can see it from space! And, and, and, we can find all of our random, far-flung buildings, like your shacks or my lava towers. AND everything!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 30, 2011, 12:55:51 PM
Has anyone played with the TNT lately? It's a lot easier to use now that it can only be set off with flint and steel, fire, or redstone. Also, it runs really well on the new server. Also, that doesn't mean you should go overboard.

I just lost about an hours work while trying cut off 10 minutes of digging.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 30, 2011, 20:09:26 PM
Nope. I assumed it would be much easier to work with now, though. It was always quite annoying not to be able to remove a TNT block.

I just lost about an hours work while trying cut off 10 minutes of digging.
You crashed the server? Got it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 31, 2011, 03:01:40 AM
No. That's the problem. You can down tons of TNT down without breaking the server. I was excavating a mountain and shot a shower of TNT all over something I had built about 100 meters away.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 01, 2011, 01:15:13 AM
LOL. I wish I could've seen this.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 01, 2011, 02:17:26 AM
I have a before and after picture. I wanted to do a progression thing like you're doing. I just happen to be lucky enough to have a really good backwards slide in the middle now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 07, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
1.8 Features

1.8 Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYoO9XkCCHg
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 07, 2011, 20:33:52 PM
Wow. This game is getting such detail added. Endermen taking damage from water will encourage underwater bases. Dirt, brick and stone slabs. Poisonous blue spiders. Mushroom biome? Sweet. Rivers and waterfalls, oh my! Critical hits: when the player hits a mob while jumping. Oh yeahhh. You can sprint. Hitting a mob while sprinting while send them flying back about 8 blocks! Jumping while sprinting boosts the jump to 4 blocks.

So much to take in.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 08, 2011, 02:29:15 AM
Also, I was thinking that it's actually kind of cool that our map has been around through all the versions. you get to see the evolution of the mapping algorithm as you move away from the spawn.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 08, 2011, 23:47:40 PM
Very true. The land is quite simple near the spawn point. I love that world map you generated. I tried to use it to hunt down where you are... but I couldn't find you. I did locate most of my lava towers, though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 09, 2011, 04:35:36 AM
No, I'm very well hidden.

I did have another incident with the TNT last night, but at least this time it was more progress than setback.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 14, 2011, 07:51:34 AM
Stongholds sound cool.

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stronghold
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 15, 2011, 00:52:03 AM
They really do. And with only 3 per world maximum they'll feel extra special. Notch has definitely put a good focus on developing interesting landscape. Exploring just keeps getting better and better.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 15, 2011, 06:07:49 AM
I guess 1.8 launched today. I wonder how that works with our new server. I know they do it, but I don't know if we have to ask.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 15, 2011, 07:05:45 AM
48 hours to update. They contacted us. Now we know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 15, 2011, 21:04:08 PM
Wow. Customer service for the win.
1.8 is COMING! 1.8 IS coming!
 :guns:  :win:  :ninja:  :laughroll:  :handsup:  :sleepy:  :angel:  ;D
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 18, 2011, 09:03:43 AM
A Minecraft Religion (in-game role play).
Looks interesting.

Also, I was just playing around with the idea of a signature bar last night and thought I'd share.

[img]http://lankyland.com/hosting/thumb/1279.jpeg[/img]
[img]http://lankyland.com/hosting/thumb/1280.jpeg[/img]
[img]http://lankyland.com/hosting/thumb/1281.jpeg[/img]
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 18, 2011, 15:00:22 PM
That's an awesome angle on the temple.

Also, we won't get 1.8 until bukkit updates, so 48 hours was probably a little over optimistic.

Also, look! Tree farm.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 18, 2011, 19:17:25 PM
Haha, I wondered why I couldn't find your server. Also, that's quite a tree farm you have there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 20, 2011, 03:00:06 AM
Oh crap. You updataded? Sorry. Hopefully bukkit gets done soon. I'll have to look and see if we can run without it. As far as I know, we don't use anything that it does anyway. Unless it's just an administrative thing.

Yeah, I add a row to the farm every time I harvest. The only problem is that it was originally located between a mineshaft and the shore, so it takes loads and loads of sand to keep expanding it out underwater.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 21, 2011, 22:12:04 PM
Oh crap. You updataded? Sorry. Hopefully bukkit gets done soon. I'll have to look and see if we can run without it. As far as I know, we don't use anything that it does anyway. Unless it's just an administrative thing.

Yeah, I add a row to the farm every time I harvest. The only problem is that it was originally located between a mineshaft and the shore, so it takes loads and loads of sand to keep expanding it out underwater.
It's OK, I've been playing a single player game in the mean time.

If I were you, I'd step the the tree farm further down in order to avoid extending it underwater.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 22, 2011, 03:13:27 AM
We put a ticket in to see if anything would change if we ditched Bukkit. I don't think we utilize it, but we might.

Yeah, I'm thinking about extending it out to the sides and then back around the mineshaft too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 22, 2011, 08:17:55 AM
What are your thoughts on using other mods?  I was going to suggest a simple mod called Timber.  If you hit the bottom wooden block in a tree with an axe, all the other wood blocks above it fall. 

It's at the bottom of the page with the mod loader required to use it.  There are other mods there too..

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 22, 2011, 09:00:20 AM
Not for now at least. Bukkit has been stripped and we've been updated to 1.8. Good luck out there. Watch out for Endermen.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 22, 2011, 13:50:31 PM
Okay then.

So I just logged in, got in fine.  Lots of graphical glitches.  All the chests in the temple were turned sideways graphically, but were exactly in the same spot. I went to the lowest level and it was dark, like the bottom of the world/nether.  I was killed by slimes which were invisible sometimes, seemingly dependent on the angle or something.  I went back, hit the air until I killed them all.  Not sure what's happening here.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 22, 2011, 18:07:24 PM
I haven't signed in to see 1.8 yet. I'll report back soon to let you know if it's 1.8 or you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 22, 2011, 21:57:01 PM
What are your thoughts on using other mods?  I was going to suggest a simple mod called Timber.  If you hit the bottom wooden block in a tree with an axe, all the other wood blocks above it fall. 

It's at the bottom of the page with the mod loader required to use it.  There are other mods there too..


I don't mind if you'd like to use Timber. I'l check out the other mods after dinner.

Also, I've logged on to see what greensteam saw. It seems to be a feature of the 1.8 update that when you reach the bottom few levels the world goes dark. It's an interesting feature that tells you you're at the bottom of the world. The chests however seem to have glitched out. I've attached screenshots.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 23, 2011, 04:10:09 AM
I didn't remember reading about the darkness thing. That's pretty cool. I'm glad I always go overboard with my torches.

That chest thing is a stupid glitch. I'm guessing there's no easy fix. I'm not looking forward to fixing my oversized storage room.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 23, 2011, 21:04:05 PM
I didn't remember reading about the darkness thing. That's pretty cool. I'm glad I always go overboard with my torches.

That chest thing is a stupid glitch. I'm guessing there's no easy fix. I'm not looking forward to fixing my oversized storage room.
I never realised the bottom of the world would become eerie, also. The number of torches doesn't seem to affect it either. You can see the sun from the bottom, though. It looks angry red.

I tried switching between alternate texture packs and the default texture pack but it didn't make any difference. I know chests work fine in a new single-player world, though.

Funnily enough, Minecraft now runs better when I'm playing on the server! It's so jerky when my laptop is generating the world, but I guess having a dedicated server eases the load on players. Finally.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 24, 2011, 08:18:07 AM
When we ditched bukkit, they also reduced our memory allotment. Either bukkit took more memory than they allotted towards it, or 1.8 is magic.

I played a bunch last night.

In addition to underground lighting being different, the dusk and dawn visuals are pretty cool.

The new fighting took some getting used to, but I like it. I took a lot of damage trying to hold down L1 to attack with my sword, but once I beat it into my own head, I like clicking for each attack.

The new eating system is interesting. I might have appreciated the "eat for health" system, but I think I like the realism of getting hurt when hunger is low and healing when hunger if full.

Oh, and stackable food. My food chests just gained a ton of room. Thank you sooo much.

I haven't had any problems eating rotten flesh dropped from Zombies yet, but apparently there's some risk.

The turned chest thing is just a graphical glitch. The chest is still physically in the same place. Also, it seems to have only effected N/S chests. My E/W ones are still normal.

XP is kind of cool. It'll be interesting to see what they actually do anything with it, but it's a cool idea. I fell from really high and died, and XP balls splattered everywhere.

Endermen are sufficiently scary. I only battled one from a very safe ledge so far, but the way they move is still unsettling. Anyone want to guess what we'll be able to use Enderman pearls for?

I need to pave a large area, so I went to the wiki to compare slabs and noticed a new one. Check out stone bricks.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 24, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
Yah, I think there there are a few new tiles. I like the vines and swamp biome.

My computer was laggy, so I already clicked for each attack...

I also love the new food bar. I've actually wanted it for a while because it adds to the Survival game. E.g. It's hardly surviving if you're able to lock yourself in a fort and never have to eat.

Endermen are great! They die in the rain and hate being looked at. They're like prissy murderers.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 24, 2011, 11:28:49 AM
Also:
Temple progress, decapitation of a mountain... and my Endermen don't look at me :( Maybe a lag issue? Maybe because I made them white?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 24, 2011, 17:26:04 PM
Greensteam and I were logged on for a bit together. Yeah. We used explosives.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 27, 2011, 03:33:05 AM
Haha. Yes!

What's that blue grid thing?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 27, 2011, 07:03:33 AM
A glass platform, and that's how it looks with his texture pack.  I like it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 27, 2011, 07:18:01 AM
Oooh. I see now. I thought those were lines of block.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 27, 2011, 22:39:21 PM
Haha. Yes!

What's that blue grid thing?
Yeah, that be mah glass. Even before using a texture pack, that was one of the first textures I edited. I really didn't like glass that I couldn't see through. I built a glass viewing platform for the grand explosion, just like I did for the blast you witnessed.

I've attached some pictures of the site pre-blast. I've also attached a pic of me looking down the temple mine shaft at greensteam as he climbs the ladder. It's a good example of my current texture pack. That shaft has changed a lot since you were last there, Superman. I couldn't stand the disarray of random dirt, cobblestone and barely holding out the ocean from the expanded storage area, so I rebuilt the area.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 28, 2011, 06:59:23 AM
Yeah, when I get back, I'm remaking that treefarm and making more charcoal than anyone will ever be able to use.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 28, 2011, 07:43:39 AM
As I mentioned to Pianoman when we were on that we have hunger to worry about now!  We need a dedicated Wheat farm that's protected from mobs!  Where would we put it?  I made a psuedo farm just outside the ladder on the surface but cows and the like continue to rampage through it!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 28, 2011, 08:00:17 AM
I have quite a bit of pork saved up (did you know if you light a pig on fire, the pork pops out already cooked?), but with animals becoming more scarce, that isn't going to last long. I did start farming, but I'm still not great at the designing part.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 28, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
Yep, told pianoman a long time ago, he was all, "No shit!" and it took me weeks to find out he wasn't being sarcastic because I wasn't sure. :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 29, 2011, 03:10:37 AM
My roommate jumped on last night, so I spent hours playing. He was trying to get all the achievements, so I got to see the temple and base when he rode the 1 km rail. Him trying to do the pig one was pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: taintedpurity33 on September 29, 2011, 03:44:06 AM
My roommate jumped on last night, so I spent hours playing. He was trying to get all the achievements, so I got to see the temple and base when he rode the 1 km rail. Him trying to do the pig one was pretty entertaining.

That's so hot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 30, 2011, 01:14:55 AM
What's the pig one? I gotta pay more attention to this stuff.

By the way, I had totally forgotten that you can cook pork by lighting a pig on fire.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 30, 2011, 03:48:45 AM
You have to ride a pig off of a cliff.

You know how animals just stand there all the time? As soon at you attempt to trap them, they start wandering like crazy. I swear it's built into their algorithms. Build a wall around yourself, they'll stand and stare at you. Try to build a house, six of them will come over to stand right in the way of your wall. Try to build a wall around them, and they'll wait until you have three walls up and then bolt. Fuck animals.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on September 30, 2011, 06:18:21 AM
I can attest to Superman's findings.

I was in creative mode flying around thinking of doing something creative to do.  I wasn't doing a good job and decided to trap a pig/cow/sheep with tnt and look into it's stupid face before I lit one of the tnt and watched it die.   ;D

However, every time I got it about a third surrounded, it would walk away from the tnt into a safe area.  It took me awhile but after placing many tnt blocks I finally trapped that buggery sheep and watched it and part of the mountain it was on explode.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 01, 2011, 17:18:51 PM
Good reporting, men.

In other news, I had an interesting dream. I may have been in Italy (thank you La Vita E Bella), facing Italian zombies. It was also a dream within another dream (thank you Inception). Strangely, I came across something I had apparently built in Minecraft a long time ago and subsequently abandoned.

I know I've never actually built this stuff but it was pretty clear. I'll try to recreate it on our server.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 02, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
A very well-conceived Minecraft mod: "Better Than Wolves". The 28 minutes will fly by.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndVVrZqHqA8&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 02, 2011, 22:39:27 PM
It gets pretty dark at the bottom of our mines. I revisited your old pit mine, Superman. Very, very eerie.

Also, the new world generation algorithm is yielding some beautiful landscape. I've found the sea draining into a ravine and even a ravine completely filled with lava. Very striking.

Also, generate some new chunks of ocean and see how deep the sea goes. There are now depths to which you can sink with enough breath, but not enough to return to the surface without losing some health.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 03, 2011, 01:42:33 AM
Yeah, mt brother found a piece of the sea where he sank and couldn't get back up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 03, 2011, 13:16:28 PM
Yeah, if you start to drown in water that's flowing downwards, you won't be able to fight the current.

I thought you might be interested in this: I've been playing with pistons after watching some Minecraft videos. I've created a powered dike to hold back water flow. I was motivated to design a farm that could be easily harvested but it could also be used to flush monsters away from castle walls (or probably other for other uses I haven't considered).

I also created a 4-metre high piston door. I just extended a very tight 2–3-metre high piston door, but thought you might like to see. I just built them in a Creative mode game for testing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 04, 2011, 03:25:30 AM
Using sand instead of sticky pistons? That's brilliant.

I can attest that even simple doors like that can become insanely complicated as you start trying to hide the redstone away. I had much bigger ambitions for the one I made, and settled on a simple 2X3.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 04, 2011, 20:36:02 PM
Using sand instead of sticky pistons? That's brilliant.
I'm glad you think so :)

I can attest that even simple doors like that can become insanely complicated as you start trying to hide the redstone away. I had much bigger ambitions for the one I made, and settled on a simple 2X3.
No shit! For this one to be completely disguised, you'd need a 4-metre long tunnel, which I suppose is shorter than other designs but is still chunky. I actually extended this video's door by just one metre and the redstone suddenly started to jut out. However, if you keep it at 2x2 or 3x2, the design is extremely tight. He also shows an example of the chunkier designs and then shows his sleeker design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=z5pG8CxkCuA&v=Hw7n_KkQmqc&annotation_id=annotation_946056
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 09, 2011, 11:59:52 AM
There is so much yet to come in Minecraft. Version 1.9, the next update, has many more things in store. Potions and enchanting look interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr94W9EEkHI&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 09, 2011, 19:41:17 PM
Wow. That's kind of awesome.

Any word on books yet? I could use books.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 10, 2011, 00:32:01 AM
I dunno about books. You mean an individual book in which you can write your own prose? I love that idea.

I just saw a video that inspired to create my own adventure for you guys. Also, I had to share this water shader mod.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/542215-181-water-shader-alpha-v4d/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdQ9EXItWYs&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 15, 2011, 00:11:04 AM
I guarantee you will learn something new about water in Minecraft after watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIRD9sMBU0
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2011, 02:29:52 AM
Ooooooh, that's why it does that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2011, 08:30:35 AM
Another 1.9 addition, dragons. Apparently they'll only appear in the "Ender" which I gather is another dimension like the Nether. Notch made a video to show why you don't want them in the normal world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTpFDRZExAg
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 15, 2011, 18:29:18 PM
So.

I noticed that one of you was online this afternoon, so I eagerly jumped on. Lo and behold, it was neither of you! Someone named WillLord has found us by accident. Not only that, but they had already built a little home off the North road and have just been helping me to clear the mountain!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 15, 2011, 22:10:45 PM
Did he say how he found our server? I asked Ryan and he didn't know. Weird.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 15, 2011, 23:02:18 PM
No, but I didn't question them too much about it. I was extremely surprised. At first I thought they might've just logged on and were walking around. Instead I found a full pathway to a home back off the main road, cut into a mountain face. They had also already visited the temple site. They actually thought the server had been abandoned.

Is Lankyland the only place where you've advertised the server address?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 17, 2011, 17:03:13 PM
Yeah, It should only be here.

I logged while he was playing today. He said he did a search for "abandoned minecraft servers". Apparently this thread was on the tenth page of results.

He seems cool, and I like having more players, but do we want to think about controlling the server info more? I don't know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 17, 2011, 19:26:11 PM
but do we want to think about controlling the server info more?
I have wondered about this. I'm surprised no one's tried to play sooner. I couldn't find us in the first 20 pages of a GOogle search for "abandoned minecraft servers".

What would you like to do? I am fine with someone else playing. WillLord helped me on the mountain and in the mines.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 18, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
No. It seems like we really lucked up with this guy. I hope he keeps playing. I want even more people to play.

I was just trying to get a sense, from him, of how open our server is. We don't have any controls at all, so I'm just slightly worried about some dumb kid stumbling across us someday and wreaking havoc. There are so few of us, we're on so rarely, and we're so spread out that I don't know how long it'd take for any of us to notice.

I'm not really advocating anything specific. I'm just saying it's something we may want to think about.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 18, 2011, 15:55:30 PM
It seems he's invited two of his friends in. VKC16BUB4Z and zakary50. A quick search shows that zakary50 got himself banned from a server once.

If you guys don't mind, I'm going to sort of monitor the chat to see what they're up to. So no making fun of me when I'm gone or I might accidentally see it. Also, do you guys mind doing a quick check of spawn to temple now and then?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 18, 2011, 16:27:07 PM
I'm suspicious why someone would want to find an abandoned minecraft server, and it's even more suspicious one of his friends was banned from one already.  Obviously I'm curious what one has done to get themselves banned.

Might be a good idea to get a whitelist for the server.  I'll check the spawn and see if anything's different.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 18, 2011, 16:46:18 PM
WillLord and Zach50 are on right now.  The main spawn looks fine aside from the quarter that was obliterated that one day.

Neither of them seem to be great at English for whatever reason.

Apparently Will froze so Zach hit him, and then got carried away and kept hitting him.

Note: I'm quite glad this minecart track is here, it's really nice to get from the main spawn to the temple.

Weird, I swear I left the main spawn to go back to the temple and ended up back at the main spawn.  This is voodoo.

Zach had to leave, and nothing terrible has happened so far.

The bridge near the temple, has some holes in it, probably from endermen, we'll need to put up some protective measures along the tracks.  I don't know what'll work though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 18, 2011, 19:35:05 PM
If you guys don't mind, I'm going to sort of monitor the chat to see what they're up to. So no making fun of me when I'm gone or I might accidentally see it. Also, do you guys mind doing a quick check of spawn to temple now and then?
No problem. No worries.

I'm naturally suspicious of account names like VKC16BUB4Z.

Obviously I'm curious what one has done to get themselves banned.
http://www.mcbouncer.com/user/zakary50/bansFor
"Reason: Griefing diamond block + iron block house."
I dunno what that's supposed to mean.


Endermen are starting to destroy our buildings.
The bridge near the temple, has some holes in it, probably from endermen, we'll need to put up some protective measures along the tracks.  I don't know what'll work though.
I assume the same way we keep out other mobs that take damage from sunlight. I.e. fencing and torches.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 18, 2011, 21:06:35 PM
I'd imagine he was destroying someone's house made out of diamond and iron blocks. 
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 19, 2011, 00:39:44 AM
I did more searching. zakary50 has at least a few bans.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 19, 2011, 03:58:25 AM
In other news. I downloaded the Pocket Minecraft demo the other day. It's not easy to use on the phone, but it's far, far easier than I expected.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 22, 2011, 19:29:39 PM
OMG. There's a weeping angels mod for Minecraft. Remember that Dr. Who episode called Blink? Yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj446LPEy7E
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 22, 2011, 19:49:39 PM
That is horrifying.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 22, 2011, 19:53:59 PM
That is horrifying.
I know, right? It doesn't help that they move faster than zombies and kill you in 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 23, 2011, 16:51:07 PM
Here's a mod that I think greensteam could appreciate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sat1cTQIESE&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 23, 2011, 18:23:54 PM
Ooooh. I like.

These are the type of things I'd be doing in Minecraft, because I am not very creative at building things myself.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 24, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
I think I'm comfortable claiming I can be done with my project in about a week.

I only have one sort of major thing left to do. I was cleaning up some really small stuff, but Minecraft SMP started getting buggy today. I'll finish that little stuff today if I can get back on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2011, 08:29:22 AM
Has anyone posted TobyGames yet?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVAcd-ffIMg
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
Done!!!

It'll take at least two players and a fair amount of time. You probably won't finish it in one sitting. The starting point is just East of the temple.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 26, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
Requires two people? Pah, we'll see about that.  I don't like Toby's voice, or what he talks about, and I'm not in the mood to watch him start from absolute zero.

Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2011, 12:23:42 PM
There's only one map to lead you. Sorry. It'll be more fun with two anyway.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
Also, I came back with sooo much gunpowder. I will beat that mountain.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 26, 2011, 20:02:20 PM
Weekend, greensteam?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 26, 2011, 20:02:39 PM
I'll try to be on. :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 27, 2011, 04:29:07 AM
I'm back in civilization and went to check out the kids' little city. It's kind of cool.

They keep asking me to spawn them things. I've tried to explain that we don't do that (and don't know how), but that Vincent kid keeps asking anyway. Yesterday he was asking for pig spawners, because they kept starving. I'm not sure what that is, if it's even a thing. So I went over and built them a giant farm. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, build a man a farm and he probably won't pester you so much all the time. Also a mine. My shitty kind of mine, not Pianoman's cool kind.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 27, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
I'm back in civilization and went to check out the kids' little city. It's kind of cool.
I was impressed with their design. I haven't looked at it in a little while.

They keep asking me to spawn them things. I've tried to explain that we don't do that (and don't know how), but that Vincent kid keeps asking anyway. Yesterday he was asking for pig spawners, because they kept starving. I'm not sure what that is, if it's even a thing. So I went over and built them a giant farm. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, build a man a farm and he probably won't pester you so much all the time.
VKC16BAJWALLADOODLE asked me yesterday for 4 pig spawners because they keep starving. I explained that we have a survival server and that, “we only use what we can gather ourselves.”

My shitty kind of mine, not Pianoman's cool kind.
:D


@greensteam: You got Gmail? We'll be able to see if we're online at the same time with that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 27, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
VKC16BAJWALLADOODLE

That's Vincent. He's a 13 year old Dutch boy living in New Zealand with parents that never taught him the dangers of revealing information to strangers over the internet.

Zakary10 is Oliver.

I forget WillLord's name.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 27, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Something used to be here. I wonder what it was..
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 28, 2011, 08:55:48 AM
K, greensteam. I've invited you to chat via Gmail. You can remove your email address if you don't want it in the public domain anymore.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 28, 2011, 09:02:29 AM
I hit Yes, and I don't see you?  I'm open to do minecraft now if you want.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 28, 2011, 16:19:18 PM
They brought another friend on. I don't know when/if we go to whitelist.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 28, 2011, 20:59:57 PM
[EDIT] By the way, Super, how do we get this map for the adventure? I can't find where to start.

They brought another friend on. I don't know when/if we go to whitelist.
LOL, it's all up to you, brother. I'm keeping an eye on our things but there seems to be no wanton destruction happening yet ;)

I'm curious to know how they found us. Was it on page 20 of some specific site's search? Cuz I couldn't find us via a Google search...

@greensteam: I've been at work all day. I'll leave Gmail on now so I can see if you're on.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 29, 2011, 00:35:03 AM
The starting point is one of my generic shacks straight east of the Temple Barracks. There's a sign and a chest with a map.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 29, 2011, 01:13:01 AM
I think I need to tell this guy that he made a really poor choice in a friend.

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2011-10-28 04:50:11 [INFO] <zakary50> wait here
2011-10-28 04:50:16 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> cre
2011-10-28 04:50:31 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> D=
2011-10-28 04:51:27 [INFO] <zakary50> dont tell jacob
2011-10-28 04:51:31 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> lol
2011-10-28 04:52:06 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> k cool

Quote
2011-10-28 08:11:55 [INFO] <WillLord> MY OBISAN
2011-10-28 08:12:12 [INFO] <WillLord> U TOOK IT
2011-10-28 08:13:26 [INFO] <zakary50> i have to go
2011-10-28 08:13:30 [INFO] <zakary50> bye
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 29, 2011, 09:12:39 AM
Sounds like a good thing to tell him.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on October 29, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
LOL. Yeah, I think WillLord should know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 01, 2011, 07:29:00 AM
Zakary and danthegodlyman stole from Vincent and Willlord. Probably not the first time. Both Willlord and Vincent have accused Zakary of stealing pretty often. This is the first confirmation though.

Quote
2011-10-29 20:17:34 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> u still got bone meal
2011-10-29 20:17:40 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> oh good
2011-10-29 20:17:47 [INFO] <zakary50> what you think
2011-10-29 20:18:30 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> a lttile more
2011-10-29 20:18:45 [INFO] <zakary50> i dont have any more
2011-10-29 20:18:51 [INFO] <zakary50> brb
2011-10-29 20:19:04 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> lets go caving till they grow
2011-10-29 20:19:48 [INFO] <zakary50> stole some of vincent
2011-10-29 20:19:57 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> k
2011-10-29 20:20:20 [INFO] <zakary50> dont tell him
2011-10-29 20:20:21 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> ninja
2011-10-29 20:20:27 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> i wont
2011-10-29 20:21:21 [INFO] <zakary50> i will steal the rest
2011-10-29 20:21:27 [INFO] <danthegodlyman> k

Banning both of them. Reporting them to ban lists.

I told Willlord early on that if we had any issues with any of them, I was going to ban them all. However, I don't think we've had any problems with Willlord or Vincent yet. Hopefully they stick around if their crappy friend is banned.

If you guys see Vincent or Willlord on, could you let them know that and why their friends are banned and that their buddy is kind of an asshole?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 01, 2011, 08:37:54 AM
If you guys see Vincent or Willlord on, could you let them know that and why their friends are banned and that their buddy is kind of an asshole?
No worries.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 03, 2011, 19:48:58 PM
Interesting. Greensteam and I will get back to the adventure soon enough. I've been taking screenshots and will post a storyboard of some kind once we're done :)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 03, 2011, 19:54:06 PM
He does most of the work, I just flood caves.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 03, 2011, 21:23:16 PM
He does most of the work, I just flood caves.
:supersmile:
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 04, 2011, 02:24:49 AM
I gather you've made it all the way to harbor. I'm glad the directions are working. It's hard to instill that sense of exploration while making sure you still end up at the right end place.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 07, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
Well, I think I'm done with them.

Quote
2011-11-06 06:52:49 [INFO] <WillLord> why did u ban oliver
2011-11-06 06:53:06 [INFO] <WillLord> that was i mistake
2011-11-06 06:53:48 [INFO] <WillLord> he justed borrwed some seeds for the farm
2011-11-06 06:54:34 [INFO] <WillLord> vincent says hes an op
2011-11-06 06:54:45 [INFO] <WillLord> that u oped him
2011-11-06 06:55:05 [INFO] <WillLord> and u burned my house
2011-11-06 06:55:13 [INFO] <WillLord> and the pub thing
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 07, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
I agree. It sucks, but I don't see how this would have worked out if it just continued like this.

What are you going to do exactly?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 07, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
Yeah, next thing is something we built gets covered in tnt. I'm not okay with that.

I just banned the four of them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 07, 2011, 12:18:47 PM
In unrelated news I am testing out the 1.9 prerelease so I will not be on the multiplayer for a short while. 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 07, 2011, 14:15:56 PM
You're going to be a pro at it when it comes out and I'll still be trying to figure out why my pig and cow won't get it on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 08, 2011, 22:04:07 PM
It's hard to instill that sense of exploration while making sure you still end up at the right end place.
Maps help a lot with that. Unfortunately, it's kind of exclusive. You're either exploring or you're following directions.

Yah, we've made it the harbour. I think you'll like our expansions :D


In unrelated news I am testing out the 1.9 prerelease so I will not be on the multiplayer for a short while. 
Oo, how'd you get that?


Yeah, next thing is something we built gets covered in tnt. I'm not okay with that.

I just banned the four of them.
WillLord was real wishy-washy. First, he seems nice and helps us build things. Then, he whines when we ban the friend he's always whining about!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 08, 2011, 22:24:11 PM
Assuming you want to be able to switch back to the official minecraft, you move your minecraft.jar file to another folder. Then you download the 1.9 prerelease 5 jar file from minecraft.net i think, can't remember where I got it; and put it where your minecraft.jar file is. 
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 09, 2011, 13:04:30 PM
I know of large communities that pay for ventrilo servers along side their gaming servers. I was thinking it would be kind of cool for MC so I don't have to stop doing what I'm doing to tell you what I'm doing. Then I realized we all have access to Gchat anyway. Anyone up for trying out voice chat next time we play at the same time?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 09, 2011, 14:39:59 PM
I don't know how long I'm going to spend in the prerelease before I switch back and work on that lighthouse.  I need to find a stronghold, and figure out the enchanting system and stuff, but I might stop and come back if it takes too long.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 09, 2011, 15:29:07 PM
Do we have a timeline for the full release of 1.9?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 09, 2011, 15:30:17 PM
I don't know.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 09, 2011, 20:55:22 PM
I know of large communities that pay for ventrilo servers along side their gaming servers. I was thinking it would be kind of cool for MC so I don't have to stop doing what I'm doing to tell you what I'm doing. Then I realized we all have access to Gchat anyway. Anyone up for trying out voice chat next time we play at the same time?
I am! My laptop's got a built-in microphone that I assume I can use with Gchat. I also have a Skype account if Gchat don't work. Although, I already have connectivity issues so I dunno how much voice packets will interrupt the game data flow.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 10, 2011, 02:24:37 AM
Oh yeah, I didn't think about that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 14, 2011, 16:38:22 PM
The mountain is no longer attached to the ground.

Also, hurry up and finish so we can try this guy out.

Oh, and a creeper fell in a hole. Just let me build my road, you jerk.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 15, 2011, 09:00:17 AM
Never mind having to switch the server over to 1.9. Full version comes out on November 18th.


- Will limit the amount of Experience Orbs dropped by a player on death.
- The ability of Endermen to carry blocks will be reduced in some way.
- On death, a proper score is given based on how many experience orbs the player has collected.
- You can toggle between three states when pressing F5 (first person, third person back, third person front), having the addition of 3rd person view from the front.
- Ender Pearls will have a unique ability. When thrown, the player will teleport to the Ender Pearl's impact location, but take 2 and 1/2 hearts of fall damage.
- [Fences] will also connect to solid blocks.
- Weapon and tool damage has been nerfed to make space for the increased damage enchantments.
- This update will include new features in the Nether, such as:
  - Nether Bricks.
  - Nether Fence.
  - Nether Stairs
  - Nether fortresses.
- This update will also include "The End" (unofficially called "The Ender", or "Enderlands"), which replaces the previously announced Sky Dimension.
  - End Portals takes the player from the Overworld to The End. To go back to the Overworld, one must defeat the Enderdragon and jump through the portal that appears.
  - End Portal Frame (Name not confirmed)
  - End Portal Block (Name not confirmed)
  - Endgame/Credit screen (You can still play your world)
  - End Stone
- New Items:
  - Ghast Tear
  - Blaze Rod
  - Nether Wart
  - Gold Nugget
  - Glass Bottle
  - Spider Eye
  - Fermented Spider Eye
  - Blaze Powder
  - Magma Cream
  - Glistering Melon
  - Eye of Ender
  - 9 new Music Discs
- 6 New Mobs:
  - Enderdragon (Boss Mob)
  - Mooshroom Cows.
  - NPCs in Villages, as Villager Mobs. As of 1.9pre5, they are basic, but they will soon have more AI.
  - Snow Golem mob.
  - Magma Cube
  - Blaze
  - Use for Experience (skills) will be added.
  - Each Experience Orb is worth one Score Point.
- Animal Breeding.
- Item Repair
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 15, 2011, 17:14:03 PM
I looked at the map and noticed that the road heading east of the temple happens to run through the biggest desert we've uncovered yet. I'm finishing the road out to it.

...we're out of gold.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 16, 2011, 09:19:03 AM
Don't worry, gold will become a renewable resource in the full version of minecraft.

We'll just need nether portals to work in multiplayer, which I'm sure they will.

Gold nuggets drop from Zombie Pigmen, and 9 nuggets make 1 gold ingot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 16, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
Thank god. I've been using a lot of gold lately.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 16, 2011, 09:41:17 AM
My bad, I typed that wrong.  They drop 0-1 Gold Nugget(s), and 9 Gold Nuggets makes 1 Gold Ingot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 19, 2011, 03:41:27 AM
Today? Does it release today?

I think I'm going to put off updating the server until I make a backup of the world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 19, 2011, 20:08:23 PM
WTF?  Already at full game?  Agh!  Can we play yet?  Do I log on?  Do I update?

Argh, damn it.  I logged on to see the progress you've made and forgot I'm half a world away on an adventure! LOL.

Also—OMG—we must detonate that mountain of explosives.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 20, 2011, 03:16:53 AM
I downloaded the map files last night. I'll see if we can get the server updated today.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 20, 2011, 06:17:26 AM
We are 1.0.

*edit*

And spawn survived the update this time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 20, 2011, 10:21:21 AM
Yayyyy.  I'll see if I can jump on today.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 20, 2011, 10:44:00 AM
Help...

I was doing this secret mushroom growing thing below the harbor, but I put no torches there to let them grow.  However monsters, etc spawned, somehow glitched climbed up the ladder while I was on it looking down, a creeper blew me up, and the bed next to it, so my spawn died (seriously need to fix that notch!) and I'm in the middle of no where and lost 117 levels of experience.

Help..
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 20, 2011, 10:53:45 AM
Help...
I'm sitting in GMail chat, open to chat.  Jump on and tell me when you need me to bring you back.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 20, 2011, 17:43:40 PM
Well that was fun, hey Superman, do you know if you can give people experience orbs or change their level?

It'd be awesome if uh... you could get me back to level 117.   ;D

I made a secret mushroom growing farm below the harbor, but mushrooms like the dark so I didn't put torches there, monsters spawned and then bad things happened when I went to confront the monsters.

Lesson learned, use bonemeal to make giant mushrooms for harvesting more mushrooms, growing mushroom farms is not awesome.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 21, 2011, 03:04:16 AM
Uhhh, I can back up the map, reset the server, and ban people. That is the extent of my knowledge. Do any of those sound like it'll help?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 21, 2011, 06:54:51 AM
Hey greensteam, I don't know if orbs can be granted.  There is no item value/number which I could use to /give it to you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 21, 2011, 08:16:36 AM
Aw okay, yeah I wouldn't worry too much about it.  I was just excited that if I lived to the return of the temple, I could make an enchanting table, bookshelves and high level enchanted stuff.   ;D

Time to start grinding.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 22, 2011, 16:45:09 PM
Animal sex!

I decided to start a temporary animal ranch at spawn. I'll probably move them once I figure out a permanent spawn layout. Farming will probably go a level or two down.

Sheep and pigs were pretty hard to find. I may have nearly hunted the spawn area sheep to extinction. I did find two though, so the species will survive. Spawn area pigs may not be so lucky. There seems to be only one left. Curse my insatiable appetite for bacon. Cows are breeding nicely, and the chickens are already out of control. Once you guys are done with your adventure, it'd be cool if you'd lure some different colored sheep into carts and truck them back to spawn.

*edit*

Oh! The sun started rising in the north. What the fuck?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 22, 2011, 19:03:08 PM
We have the best world ever.  :-*

OK, greensteam.  I will keep my Gmail chat on anytime I'm free.  If you find me, I will make extra effort to jump so we can complete our Minecraftian adventure!

Ummm... how do you get mobs into minecarts?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 22, 2011, 19:21:27 PM
I might be on tomorrow, not sure. 

The only way I know of is to push them into the cart.  It might take some effort.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 23, 2011, 02:39:16 AM
If you hold hold grain in front of an animal, it will follow you. When you feed them grain and they get horny. If there are two horny animals, and this part is important, of the same species, they'll make babies.

I don't know if this is actually coded into the game, but it seems easiest to get chickens to follow you and cows a little harder. Sheep seem hard to lure, and pigs seem very difficult. I'll have to check the wiki sometime. I might be in my head.

For spawn, I'm thinking about extending that circle all the way down to bedrock so it's a giant silo. Then having different things on each level. One for storage, one for animals, one for farms, one for a tree farm, etc... Then at least our renewable resources could be produced and stored centrally. If you were building a new project, you could send out a cart full of charcoal, food, stone, etc.. to the location you want to build and you'd have that much less set up time. I guess that means I have to work on the roads sometime too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 23, 2011, 06:54:07 AM
For spawn, I'm thinking about extending that circle all the way down to bedrock so it's a giant silo. Then having different things on each level. One for storage, one for animals, one for farms, one for a tree farm, etc... Then at least our renewable resources could be produced and stored centrally. If you were building a new project, you could send out a cart full of charcoal, food, stone, etc.. to the location you want to build and you'd have that much less set up time.
That sounds AWGHSOME!  I will helpy with roads and stuff.  I still have to finish the temple.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 23, 2011, 07:17:00 AM
Oh. When you get back, there's a rail line from the temple to the biggest desert on the map and enough boosters to get storage carts all the way back.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 23, 2011, 19:40:03 PM
Oh. When you get back, there's a rail line from the temple to the biggest desert on the map and enough boosters to get storage carts all the way back.
Just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it!  I've never made a storage cart before.  Nor a powered minecart.  You can tell I'm an old-fashioned Minecrafter from way back in.... 12 months ago.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 23, 2011, 20:17:15 PM
I use storage carts heavily for mining. That's why I always build the mines that slope down instead of drop straight down. Then I can just send full carts back up when my inventory is full and keep mining.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 24, 2011, 18:40:01 PM
Ahh, I see.  Upward sloping rails.  You want that automatic freight system I posted a while back in this thread.


So it turns out that Notch is... a little unpredictable.  He seems to be backpedalling from accusations he made of the Yogscast.  It'll be interesting to see who backs down.  Basically, the Yogscast deny the accusations and Notch has yet to retract his statements (apart from saying it was probably a misunderstanding induced by weariness).

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/c32bh82

It seems that some of Notch's fans have taken it upon themselves to DDoS the Yogscast forum.  One even verbally assaulted the Yogscast at the airport when they returned home.  Notch is looking worse and worse in this because he hasn't deplored his fans' behaviour.


[UPDATE]
Whoa.  The strongest anti-Notch response I've seen yet (from the Reddit thread I posted just above).
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 24, 2011, 20:04:41 PM
From the few perspectives I've heard from people that went, one thing that was clear is that Minecon wasn't organized very well. 

Whoever was in charge of location and chose Las Vegas deserves a bat to the shins. 

I read that Prince Harry was there and Deadmau5 had a concert.  People said the security was terrible and weren't letting people in to Minecon panels or something like that.  Basically people couldn't move very freely between the different places.  I've forgotten some details.

Being the first Minecon, of course it's not going to go that smooth, or at least I wouldn't assume so.  I think the amount of work/exhaustion took many by surprise and caused miscommunications, misunderstandings and snowballed tiny problems into big ones.  I hope that this works out somehow, but it does show that Mojang and Notch might have some problems they need to deal with that don't just have to do with Minecon. 
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 25, 2011, 05:36:26 AM
I have a mining rail system that I like well enough.

I'm also fitting out the spawn mine with a variation on it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on November 25, 2011, 06:36:57 AM
"Hey, @yogscast! I'm sorry about being a dick."

Hurray progress.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 25, 2011, 07:00:41 AM
haha.  Yogscast will accept it.  They seem pretty gracious.  I dunno what Notch was thinking but he'd better continue to help to repair it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 30, 2011, 05:25:39 AM
I have an idea of how to do each level of the spawn, but I haven't figured out how to do the storage yet, or how to stack them.

There's going to be one level of chests, craft tables, furnaces, and those two new ones that I don't know the names of or how to use. It's about a 200 meter circle, 8 meters tall, with a square 20 meter access shaft down the middle. How do I lay out a space like that for mass chest storage? I can't wrap my head around it. I'd love not only designated chests for each item (we have the room) but designated rows and sets of rows for really common items like stone and dirt.

There's going to be one level of a birch tree farm that will provide wood and charcoal.

There's going to be one level for crops. Mostly wheat, but probably other stuff too. Whatever it is we can grow now.

There's going to be one level of livestock, divided into quarters. Cows, pigs, chickens, sheep.

There's going to be one level of just colored sheep. I have yellow, red, green, and black sheep now, but I'll figure out how to do the other colors and split up one level into however many colors there are. you only need to color one sheep and with enough wheat you can keep making it breed more of the same color, so we don't have to keep searching by dye materials. Yay colorful buildings?

I don't know what order to put them in from top to bottom, except that the storage level probably goes on top. I really don't know what to do with the storage level. I want to do that one first because I'm destroying our old storage room soon and I'm also about to mine out huge amounts of materials. Help. I can get exact dimensions if that helps, but I really just need a concept and I can't think of what will work best.

*edit*

I got a full list of items that we can carry. I think the best layout would be a giant square of chests each for a different item/block. Then, we can stack/build out into the circle as we require more space. Some of these obviously don't need their own chests. I doubt we'll accumulate many diamond blocks. However, we are dealing with a pretty gigantic space, so we don't need to group all food into one chest here. We can break out a lot of things we don't usually in our other storage areas.

I think we need to come up with some sort of grouping. What goes close to each other (All wools, sand/glass/glass pane/sandstone/sandstone slab/sandstone stairs, pork/cooked pork/beef/cooked beef/etc...), and what goes in chests together (potions?, all axes, all swords, all armor...)

I'll take a crack at it, but any input would be awesome.

Stone
Dirt
Cobblestone
Wooden Plank
Sapling 1
Sapling 2
Sapling 3
Sand
Gravel
Gold Ore
Coal Ore
Wood 1
Wood 2
Wood 3
Leaves 1
Leaves 2
Leaves 3
Glass
Lapis Lazuli Ore
Lapis Lazuli BLock
Dispenser
Sandstone
Note Block
Bed
Powered Rail
Detector Rail
Piston
Sticky Piston
Wool
Light Gray Wool
Gray Wool
Black Wool
Red Wool
Orange Wool
Yellow Wool
Lime Wool
Green Wool
Light Blue Wool
Cyan Wool
Blue Wool
Purple Wool
Magenta Wool
Pink Wool
Brown Wool
Dandelion
Rose
Brown Mushroom
Red Mushroom
Block of Gold
Block of Iron
Stone Slab
Sandstone Slab
Wooden Slab
Cobblestone Slab
Brick Slab
Brick
TNT
Bookshelf
Moss Stone
Obsidian
Torch
Wooden Stairs
Cobblestone Stairs
Brick Stairs
Stone Brick Stairs
Nether Brick Stairs
Chest
Block of Diamond
Crafting Table
Furnace
Sign
Wooden Door
Iron Door
Ladder
Rail
Lever
Stone Pressure Plate
Wooden Pressure Plate
Redstone Dust
Redstone Torch
Stone Button
Snow BLock
Cactus
Clay Block
Jukebox
Pumpkin
Netherrack
Soul Sand
Glowstone
Jack-O-Lantern
Redstone Repeater
Trap Door
Stone Brick
Iron Bars
Glass Pane
Melon
Vines
Fence Gate
Mycelium
Lily Pad
Nther Brick
Nether Brick Fence
Nether Wart
Enchantment Table
Brewing Stand
Cauldron
End Stone
Iron Shovel
Iron Pickaxe
Iron Axe
Flint and Steel
Red Apple
Bow
Arrow
Coal
Charcoal
Diamond
Iron Ingot
Feather
Gunpowder
Wooden Hoe
Stone Hoe
Iron Hoe
Diamond Hoe
Gold Hoe
Seeds
Wheat
Bread
Leather Cap
Leather Tunic
Leather Pants
Leather Boots
Iron Helmet
Iron Chestplate
Iron Leggings
Iron Boots
Diamond Helmet
Diamond Chestplate
Diamond Leggings
Diamond Boots
Gold Helmet
Gold Chestplate
Gold Leggings
Gold Boots
Flint
Raw Porkchop
Gold Ingot
Iron Sword
Wooden Sword
Wooden Shovel
Wooden Pickaxe
Wooden Axe
Stone Sword
Stone Shovel
Stone Pickaxe
Stone Axe
Diamond Sword
Diamond Shovel
Diamond Pickaxe
Diamond Axe
Stick
Bowl
Mushroom Soup
Gold Sword
Gold Shovel
Gold Pickaxe
Gold Axe
String
Cooked Porkchop
Paintings
Golden Apple
Sign
Wooden door
Bucket
Water bucket
Lava bucket
Minecart
Saddle
Iron door
Redstone
Snowball
Boat
Leather
Milk
Clay Brick
Clay
Sugar Cane
Paper
Book
Slimeball
Minecart with Chest
Minecart with Furnace
Egg
Compass
Fishing Rod
Clock
Glowstone Dust
Raw Fish
Cooked Fish
Ink Sac
Rose Red
Cactus Green
Cocoa Beans
Lapis Lazuli
Purple Dye
Cyan Dye
Light Gray Dye
Gray Dye
Pink Dye
Lime Dye
Dandelion Yellow
Light Blue Dye
Magenta Dye
Orange Dye
Bone Meal
Bone
Sugar
Cake
Bed
Redstone Repeater
Cookie
Map
Shears
Melon (Slice)
Pumpkin Seeds
Melon Seeds
Raw Beef
Steak
Raw Chicken
Cooked Chicken
Rotten Flesh
Ender Pearl
Blaze Rod
Ghast Tear
Gold Nugget
Nether Wart
Mundane Potion
Awkward Potion
Thick Potion
Instant Health
Potion of Fire Resistance
Potion of Harming
Potion of Poison
Potion of Regeneration
Potion of Slowness
Potion of Strength
Potion of Swiftness
Glass Bottle
Spider Eye
Fermented Spider Eye
Blaze Powder
Magma Cream
Brewing Stand
Cauldron
Eye of Ender
Glistering Melon
13 Disc
Cat Disc
blocks Disc
chirp Disc
far Disc
mall Disc
mellohi Disc
stal Disc
strad Disc
ward Disc
11 Disc
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 01, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
Fences don't do a great job of keeping animals in. The spawn area around spawn is becoming pretty populated again.

Also, filling in the ocean around the spawn with sand, just to dig it back up is becoming more than tedious. I need a better method. What would happen if I dumped lava all over?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 02, 2011, 16:01:41 PM
Lava was a bust. I guess it's just sand. It's slow, but I'm getting there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 04, 2011, 15:55:57 PM
Spawn point is looking more and more amazing.  I'm finding it hard to imagine the space you're describing, but I once had a private world when I did just that with storage chests.  I allocated single chests for items and grouped similar items near each other.  It was a simple storage network.  Your proposal sounds like a much grander version of this idea (as always—like the road network!)

I still need to get my head around all the latest additions to the game.  I haven't played for a month and I'm a bit lost with all the new materials and activities like spellcasting and repairing.

@greensteam: I found a list of SMP commands, one of which allows me to return your lost experience to you!  One interesting command that anyone can use is the /kill command, which is basically you committing suicide.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands


Also, Superman said we're headed to coordinates x 314, z -3644.  Needless to say, we are currently quite far away at x 1121, z -2148.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on December 04, 2011, 16:26:37 PM
Awesome. I can wait on getting it back after we return to the temple, because I would need an enchanting table before being able to use them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 04, 2011, 20:45:45 PM
Oh, good, you did get my message. Sorry about that. I had a ton of people over tonight. I didn't mean to be so curt.

Also, I have so much sand for you when you get back.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 05, 2011, 07:39:14 AM
You weren't curt  :)

Superman, I think we went in a completely different direction to where you intended.  We're about 800 metres from the x coordinate and 1.5 kilometres from the z coordinate!  I took us east (from the harbour) and followed the shoreline.  It split in two so we took one shore and then doubled back to check if we'd missed anything.  After a little more travelling the coastline really split up and we became completely lost.  It's worked out nicely, though.  I won't tell you how yet.  You'll have to wait until we're done and we turn it into a real story.

Sand is good.  Temple requires shedloads of sand.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 06, 2011, 02:59:06 AM
I assume you mean original east, not the new east. Eventually we're going to have to change our directions.

It was designed that you could skip that fairly large bay by taking the bridge, but even if you stick to the coast, you'll come back to the other side of the bridge anyway.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 06, 2011, 07:48:31 AM
I assume you mean original east, not the new east. Eventually we're going to have to change our directions.
I mean east, as in "the side from which the Sun rises."  Do clouds move west now?

It was designed that you could skip that fairly large bay by taking the bridge, but even if you stick to the coast, you'll come back to the other side of the bridge anyway.
Yeahhh... that makes sense... we took the bridge, doubled back on the other side and then took a more right-side route, when you wanted us to go left.  I had a lot of fun doing what we were doing anyway, so hurrah for happy misdirection.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 06, 2011, 08:09:15 AM
Well, the clouds still move in the same direction. In the last update, the sun started rising in what used to be the south. I assume we'd rather use the directions based on the sun, but all those signs are going to be the old directions. Anything that says east on it, now refers to north. It works for that last one, because the coast goes new east before heading mostly new north. The rest of the directions are going to refer to cardinal directions though, so translate all "east"s into "north"s.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 06, 2011, 18:55:12 PM
Uhh... huhhh.  I get it.


Damn it. LOL.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on December 08, 2011, 14:29:33 PM
Since it is Cider's birthday I thought we could all chip in and get him a copy of Minecraft!

Click the link to help out!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on December 08, 2011, 14:32:58 PM
Cider? Isn't it supposed to be Spider? Wait, I thought Spider was a woman wanting to be a man?

I'm very confused.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 08, 2011, 16:44:08 PM
Ouch. It's at $30? If I knew she was interested, I would have bought her a copy back when it was $15.

Cider? Isn't it supposed to be Spider?

Back in the long, long ago, in the before time, I said something stupid on the forums. I don't remember what, but I think I even more stupidly tried to hold my ground on it. Then I realized I fucked up and tried to divert attention from myself by making fun of Cider. Maybe my mistake had something to do with spelling, because I said something about "Cider's spastic spolin". I don't know, it must have seemed funny at the time. Either way, dignity preserved?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: daddy on December 08, 2011, 21:56:04 PM
My name is spider.
It's not my birthday.
I don't want to be a man, I simply recognise that most things in my life would be better if I were a man. Lanky used a masculine pronoun to express his respect for me.
I can get myself minecraft when someone gives me a job and/or Centrelink finally backpays me.  Also, I didn't win Powerball tonight but I'm going to buy a scratchie tomorrow, so by the weekend I might be richer than all of you.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on December 08, 2011, 22:15:14 PM
Its 19.95 Euro which according to the conversion tool I checked today was roughly $30 or so. And just incase it changes around I rounded up so that we can still get it for her.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on December 08, 2011, 23:15:59 PM
Have you picked out a name yet? In support they have a drop down menu that will take you to "I want to change my username" but it hasn't been implemented yet.

It says it's $26.95 on minecraft.net and I'm assuming that would work anywhere?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 09, 2011, 02:17:13 AM
The spawn area is a real mess right now, but I'll put together a little welcome chest next time I'm on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 09, 2011, 06:53:52 AM
I'm rethinking my donation now.  If I donate some of this game to spider, she might kill me and eat me.

In other news, the Chinese characters 悪牝 beneath Spider's name mean wicked female (animal).

@Superman: We are obviously nowhere near spawn at the moment, but we'll return when done!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2011, 06:54:33 AM
Check out the first picture of the server.

That shoreline on the far right is still there, but everything else is pretty much obliterated.

Also, our one year of existence is coming up soon. I'll try to have the new spawn finished for celebration. Maybe we can go on a big Nether adventure together.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 10, 2011, 07:52:46 AM
Daaaamn... I remember taking that: right before your roommate screamed at me to protect him if night fell.  When I first logged on, I couldn't fathom why you were building that ugly ass cobblestone platform.  And now it's the base of that majestic dome, with great roads leading really—really—far away.  (By the way, if you ever come across one of my random constructions, namely the lava towers, please note down the coordinates!  I miss them.)

I look forward to a Nether adventure... but does it even work yet?  I also do not know anything about the Ender realm or its blocks.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2011, 08:29:55 AM
Nether worked at one point. I haven't tried in a while. I do remember it not working at one point. I had a pretty big stockpile of glowstone and even a chest for Nether items out new north, where you guys are. You should be getting close to the Nethershack.

I don't know anything about the Ender stuff. I think you need to find a stronghold. I've never seen one, but I haven't generated any new land since 1.0. I'll probably wait until you guys are back.

I made a new map of the server, so when you're done we can decide where we want to generate new chunks first. Also, there's a really cool Bukkit mod that generates a real time map. When Bukkit catches up, I might vote to install that.

I'm personally a huge fan of keeping our world mostly vanilla, but now that we have a stable build of the game, I'm open up to the idea of mods if we all want them.

I've never been out new east, where the lava towers are. I did stumble across a few weird little shacks new south where the snow tower, Atom's base site, and your cool tower are. I'll try to get in the habit of taking coordinates of weird little things I find.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 10, 2011, 08:53:07 AM
I, too, enjoy Minecraft as it is.  However, the "Timber!" mod sounded good—the one where you just chop the bottom of a tree and the rest of falls down.

Nethershack?  Atom??  No spoilers please :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 10, 2011, 09:09:38 AM
Atom is my roommate. His big base foundation is new south of spawn.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 10, 2011, 09:45:33 AM
greensteam, do you remember those two creepers?  Yeah, they're STILL there.  Why aren't they despawning???
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 10, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
I took this screenshot of our temple base 2½ months ago.  It was a unique angle afforded by the lag when loading the world.  Screenshots like this used to crash my client but I got away with this one.  Anyway, I thought you might like to see what the mineshaft base would look like if sliced in half.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on December 10, 2011, 22:49:16 PM
Its 19.95 Euro which according to the conversion tool I checked today was roughly $30 or so. And just incase it changes around I rounded up so that we can still get it for her.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 11, 2011, 08:48:39 AM
Well, Super, the adventure was amazing.  We were flabbergasted to see the final goal of the journey.  I will be posting details soon.

Also, thank you for all the work on the mountain.  You've finished clearing that space right up.  I'm creating some pillar outlines so you can see what goes on the inside.  I can't wait to lay down some TNT and blow up that section at the back!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 12, 2011, 06:11:55 AM
I used to get that weird mineshaft view a lot with the mine by the park.

If you guys want, there's a shack on top of the hill outside the park and one at the enrance. Also, there's a huge storage room, farm, tree farm, and mine on the far side of the mountain. If you need to refill on anything, there should be plenty there.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 12, 2011, 07:44:02 AM
If you guys want, there's a shack on top of the hill outside the park and one at the enrance. Also, there's a huge storage room, farm, tree farm, and mine on the far side of the mountain. If you need to refill on anything, there should be plenty there.
We played at the amusement park for a long time, explored around there and then headed back to temple.  We actually rented two of the rooms and dumped some of our inventory there :]
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 12, 2011, 12:22:32 PM
I'm glad you guys liked it.

It started out twice as big. It was truning out to be far more than I could handle and I cut it in half. I might go back and finish the other half now.

I like the idea of renting rooms for sleeping.

The whole buying/selling thing was sort of a conceptual thing. We're pretty much socialist. I do kind of like the idea a little, even if it's not how we usually do stuff. Especially as the rides taks so much metal to build. If you guys like the concept though, you should buy some space, build some sleeping rooms, and put them up for rent.

I put the road out to the harbor while you guys were traveling. Now that you're done, I'll pull it out to the park.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 12, 2011, 16:28:18 PM
We're pretty much socialist.
Haha, yes, look at that, it does work!  We are only a community of three but it works.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 13, 2011, 02:58:17 AM
Most recent map.

Sorry, it's too big for most image hosting.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 15, 2011, 22:20:44 PM
This is a Minecraft map of the world. I downloaded it and let my brother play it. It's a little smaller than I expected, but still pretty cool. With the messed up thing with the sun switching, it was a little hard to navigate. With someone that never plays playing, it was almost impossible. However, he did get from Vancouver to Turkey just from geography clues, so I gues that's a testament.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 17, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
Most recent map.

Sorry, it's too big for most image hosting.
I love seeing maps of our world.  I think my favourite aspect is seeing how far I've travelled and the random things I've built.  E.g. there's a yellow arrow on the map.  I made that a very, very long time ago.

I also located my favourite lava tower!  It's far to the left.  I don't know if that north, south, east or west.

Ummm... so now we come to a decision.  The pillars at the short end of the temple reach 6 across, while the long end is now at 8 long.  I can fit in a 9th pillar.  Should I?  Cast your votes now, please.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 21, 2011, 08:27:38 AM
I vote 9 pillars for a nice 2:3 ratio.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 21, 2011, 18:14:53 PM
Greensteam?  9 pillars?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 21, 2011, 20:05:13 PM
Also, the space under spaw generates a lot of creepers, so I brought some TNT up to the blast site. Nowhere near enough, but a good start.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on December 21, 2011, 20:26:44 PM
Sounds good.

In one of my single player worlds I traveled far into the Nether, exploring a nether stronghold, and I think I'm lost.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 22, 2011, 07:11:48 AM
I should have a nether portal built into the spawn eventually. I'm still voting on a one year celebratory excursion.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on December 22, 2011, 19:00:07 PM
I should have a neather portal built into the spawn eventually. I'm still voting on a one year celebratory excursion.
Can we even reach the Nether in our multiplayer world?  Has anyone tested this?  I don't have any diamond left :(
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 23, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
It worked at one point. I've been there on our world.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 25, 2011, 08:11:57 AM
Protip:

Try uninstalling old versions of Java. Not only does it clean up a fair amount of space, but it has a noticeable impact on performance.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 29, 2011, 04:42:49 AM
Long term proposal:

I think we should have four way intersections at each 5km mark. That's about 1km further out than the amusement park. So we'd basically have a 10km square surrounded by road.

I think it'd be cool for each intersection to be designed by a different person. I got to do spawn. Someone else would get to do the north, south, east, or west. Eventually those would intersect, so we'd also have a northeast, northwest, southeast, and southwest.

Ideally these would each serve the same function as spawn. A geographic point so you know where you are. A safe place to seek refuge while exploring. A production and storage place for materials.

I know we already have huge projects going, I was just a little burnt out on spawn, so I pulled the road out to the amusement park. Then I decided to pull it out to an even thousand. Then I got the intersection idea and pulled it out to 5km. The road part of the intersection is there if anyone wants to claim the north intersection right away. It's pretty much in the middle of the ocean. I did have to build a little mini base to get some wood so I could smelt stone for the road, so there's at least a place to start collecting materials. Just watch out, the storage room is near the water level, the tree farm runs into an abandoned mineshaft, and the mine is right under a lava pool. ...okay, the base sucks.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 30, 2011, 06:54:47 AM
I built the base for the ninth pillar on temple and built the corner. Could someone double check my work? The first time I tried to help, I built the bases one block too far out and had a lot of rebuilding to do.

Holy crap, that thing takes a lot of sand. I came by way of that desert that I built the rail to, and I filled up all of my open inventory with sand, and I barely had enough to make a dent. How did you ever get that much sand?

We're going to have to blow up that mountain before we can build much further. We should probably have some creeper hunting parties to build up enough TNT. I threw another 8 in the chest, but I don't think we're close to enough.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 30, 2011, 06:56:41 AM
there's a yellow arrow on the map.  I made that a very, very long time ago.

I was going to ask about that. I remember seeing it on the first map we generated. I've never seen it on the ground. Is it torches?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 03, 2012, 23:08:53 PM
I need your help to establish which way temple is from the spawn point.  It used to be north.  Is it now west?

there's a yellow arrow on the map.  I made that a very, very long time ago.

I was going to ask about that. I remember seeing it on the first map we generated. I've never seen it on the ground. Is it torches?
It is made from torches.  I made it when I first went walkabout so that I would have a rough idea which way to travel to get back to spawn.  I had completely forgotten about it until you started making these maps and I'm glad it shows up so nicely.  It's a little stamp on the history of our minecraft world.

Holy crap, that thing takes a lot of sand. I came by way of that desert that I built the rail to, and I filled up all of my open inventory with sand, and I barely had enough to make a dent. How did you ever get that much sand?
Hahaha.  I drained a nearby beach (not too near—I didn't want to affect the ambience of the temple by stripping its natural surroundings) a bit down along the road and just to the right on the map.  I spent a lot of time making trips between the temple and that place. When I finished stealing all the sand from that place and took stock of how small a dent we'd made in the temple project I realised what a mammoth task we had ahead of ourselves.  I then searched farther for a new source of sand and found a large desert.  You can see some of the basins I've created directly left and a little above/left of the yellow arrow (not far behind the farmland set up by the young visitors before we banned them).


I didn't quite understand your description of where your "little mini base" is but I place dibs on the road leading down from spawn according to the map.  The road leading from spawn to my great tree and beyond.  That one.

I agree with a big creeper hunt.  I've leave Gmail chat open whenever I'm free for a Minecraft sortie!

P.S. Thanks for the Java protip.  I checked (in Change/Remove Programs) and I only have Java 6 Update 22 installed.  What are you guys running?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 04, 2012, 13:01:09 PM
Yeah, temple is west of spawn. I do have directions and landmarks that I know of labeled at spawn too.

Don't forget that there's a rail line running from the temple to the biggest desert on the map.

The mini base I was talking about is 5km north of spawn. I'll let you know when I get the eastern road (the one down on the map) out to 5km. It probably won't be soon though.

Speaking of our young visitors. I was on the other day and a new young visitor logged on. He told me he was really good friend with "this really cool guy" vkc.... The more he talked the more apparent he was vkc. By the time I got to spawn, he had busted out about a third of the glass holding the lava in and slaughtered maybe a quarter of the animals. I kicked him and he tried to log in as vkc just a couple seconds later. He has been banned again and I've reported both of his names to ban lists.

I'm on Java 6 update 30. I had seven old versions installed and it runs a lot better without them.

Update on spawn. First floor (storage area) is pretty much done. However, the more I worked on it, the more I realized my circle was more than just a little off, so I'm rebuilding the ocean wall next.

Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 05, 2012, 14:30:12 PM
Wow.  You really like to go all out, don'tcha?  Who knew that when I first spawned underneath your flat slab of stone, I was spawning underneath the future site of that gigantic dome and surrounding awesomeness?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 06, 2012, 07:33:19 AM
In all fairness, it's just a circle copied over and over. I'm more of a utilitarian. You guys build the cool looking stuff. I really will need you guys to come in later and make a nice surface design, and decorate the interiors.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 06, 2012, 11:09:12 AM
I completely agree: you are utilitarian.  I often find myself wanting a softer design from you.  But it has its advantages, too.  Look at spawn: huge.  Our roads network: extensive.  Temple mountain: nearly demolished.

I just hope that one day lag in Minecraft SMP will not prevent boats from being used, meaning we can take scenic tours along our waterways.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 06, 2012, 13:13:45 PM
Yeah. The lag keeps getting better all the time. I rarely have problems these days. I haven't tried boats in a while.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 08, 2012, 13:37:29 PM
OK, well, for starters—Oh~h my~y Go~od!  I returned to spawn and the picture you supplied doesn't do your effort justice.  It's freakin' huge!  There's a double storage chest for each item, animals of every kind, a fully equipped enchantment library, 10 billion cauldrons, taking up but one eighth of an eighth of the available space you've hollowed, all within a hole the size of a crater reminiscent of the Yucatan Bay.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2012, 03:39:36 AM
Haha. Thanks. I really wanted to create a one stop shop for everything you'd ever need. The next level down will be a tree farm, under that a farm, and under that the animals. I haven't yet figured out how I'm going to walk all those animals down the stairs.

I wanted to stack potion stations over the enchantment stations, but I didn't know how to make potion stands.

I haven't really figured out sleeping yet either. I was originally thinking just a big bunk area, but I'm not sure I can 100% proof the area against mobs, or where they'd go anyway. You might have see the little shack I made within the central shaft. I think maybe we just all claim a corner and build our own private sleeping/storage areas. I'm wide open to different ideas though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
It's big.  It's scarily big.  I can't imagine what you're going to fill that space with.

So after collecting some more sand out at the largest desert and pimping out our "shack" with stone bricks, I decided to take a break and go off to do something new.  I, too, have another big project in mind and I wanted it to be far away.  The only problem is that I died last night when, after exploring an abandoned mine shaft (helloooo, new chunk!), a creeper snuck up on me and promptly did away with me.  And even if that one hadn't succeeded, there was another one right behind it.  I was toast.

So I spawned back at the bed you built near your enchantment library.  I didn't have the heart to go back to where I was.  I don't even know where I was.  I was halfway down to bedrock, designing a new, huge mine shaft.  Every time I build these things I update the design with what I think are better features.  I was making it larger to accommodate a central rail like you made for easy transport of stone and ores back to the surface.  Now we just need one of those fancy automatic storage facilities like the one I posted in a video early on in this thread.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 10, 2012, 17:20:46 PM
Oh no. I hate that.

While you're gone, I'll keep collecting sand and gunpowder so the building of the temple will be fast when you get back.

While you're at spawn, I'm 100% done with that floor. So if you want to do anything to cover my cobblestone and random torches everywhere design, feel free. Now or ever. I'm just doing my best to make it work. I'm more than open to anyone coming along and making it pretty. Or if you have a layout that makes more sense, I'm open to that too.

It's big.  It's scarily big.  I can't imagine what you're going to fill that space with.

Long rows of double chests stacked up to four high. That whole level, other than the central shaft, is just storage.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 10, 2012, 17:39:11 PM
Long rows of double chests stacked up to four high. That whole level, other than the central shaft, is just storage.
Great googamooga!


Yah man, I like prettifying.  I'd love to do something with it.  I'll have a think aboot it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 11, 2012, 03:11:08 AM
That floor is designed to be 3 meters thick. It obviously isn't now, because even building out of cobblestone gets expensive. There some room to play with vertically though.

There's no rush on doing anything more with it. I was just letting you know I'm open to it.

If you're building remotely, you may just want to keep in mind that the roads run along 0x and 0z, and eventually on 5000x, -5000x, 5000z, and -5000z. The amusement park is somewhere around (100,y,-4000) so that it would be far away, but eventually be right on a major road. Mostly make sure I don't have to run a highway right through something pretty that you've built.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 11, 2012, 16:49:45 PM
If you're building remotely, you may just want to keep in mind that the roads run along 0x and 0z, and eventually on 5000x, -5000x, 5000z, and -5000z. The amusement park is somewhere around (100,y,-4000) so that it would be far away, but eventually be right on a major road. Mostly make sure I don't have to run a highway right through something pretty that you've built.
Yah, I already took that into consideration.  I also busted open GIMP and measured the distances.  I have a long way to go to extend the road past my tree to the new east.  The amusement park sits around -4200.  I'm currently building around x 1880, z 370.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 13, 2012, 05:34:04 AM
They just released 1.1.

You can now enchant bows.

Also, Pianoman and I were just talking about this, when sheep eat grass, their wool grows back. Sheep farm concept is now viable.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 13, 2012, 09:34:52 AM
Excellent!  Perhaps I should've waited a week to generate new chunks... but I didn't know how long it'd be 'til the update.  I'm interested to see what beaches look like.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 13, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
Speaking of new chunks. I've yet to see any villages, so I checked the server settings. Generate structures is turned on, so they should pop up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 16, 2012, 17:09:23 PM
Backed up the server. Trying to do that more often, just in case.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 16, 2012, 17:23:18 PM
Neat idea.  We've been playing in this world for a loooong time.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on January 30, 2012, 22:33:11 PM
I've been playing on the server a bit. Has anyone noticed?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2012, 03:25:11 AM
Awesomeness.

I put an hour in on the pit here and there, but I haven't been out of my hole in weeks. Give me a heads up when you're going to play, and I'll jump on if I'm open.

If I knew you were coming I would have made a little welcome chest like I did for Cider. Feel free to come to the second level of spawn and grab anything you need.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 31, 2012, 13:53:28 PM
Found you!

Pianoman, building a road east and working on the temple to the west is not meshing well with my ADD. I got bored at spawn and brought some rock over to the road. Then I got bored with that and delivered some creeper guts to the temple. I might have spent more time walking than anything.

Backing up the server. Down for a bit.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 01, 2012, 03:49:23 AM
Everybody that plays, when is a good time to meet for the one year anniversary Nether adventure? I have company from Feb 10-20. So preferably before or after that. Let's get some availability posted and plan this thing.

I was way off on Lanky's location. He's taken up residence in Pianoman's awesome tower south of spawn. I helped him clear out a ton of space under a hill for a while last night. I'm interested to see what it's going to be.

Lanky, if you follow that little road on top of the hill just a bit east, you'll come to the main road. Follow that north and it'll take you to the main spawn.

Spawn update: B1 (storage) is basically done. It should probably get a roof eventually, but I've never seen any hostile mobs drop in. I'm still open to design modifications for the ground floor which would effect the roof of B1. Also, if you want to place a bed and storage at spawn, I've left room at the center of B1, where the enchantment tables are. Just claim a corner and build what you need.

B2 (tree farm) is maybe a quarter done. It's still really dark where I haven't built, so be careful of mobs. There are plenty of trees growing though if you need wood.

B4 (farm), B5 (livestock), and B6 (colored sheep) have something like 75% of ceilings done, but not much else. Again, beware of mobs. If you need wheat in the meantime, there is a wheat farm just east of spawn between spawn and the giant tree. You can't miss the insane mine entrance. It's one of the first levels down.

B7 is where the Nether Portals are going. I've skipped down to this level in an effort to get it done for our adventure. I probably need just one or two good sessions to get the rest of the main floor in and a couple more to do the layout.

*edit*

VKC is back again. This time as Hroad. This has to be the richest 14 year old in the world, or he knows how to steal Minecraft accounts. I went through the list of every IP he ever logged in under and finally got frustrated and just banned the whole range. Anyone with better internetting skill want to let me know if I went too overboard? I think I did it right.

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Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 01, 2012, 21:30:47 PM
You banned VKC well; don't worry, I get ADD-bored too, and; hell yeah!  I forgot to mention I saw that you had dug down to bedrock.  It gave me a bit of wood.

I actually haven't played anything for a couple of weeks.  I've been busy with the business and being back at work.  In about 2 weeks I'll probably start to have some more free time, so it probably gels well with when your house guests leave on Feb 20.

Lanky: Yay!  You're playing on our server now.  How do you find the survival server?  Construction is much slower going but adventure is much more exciting when you can die!

P.S.  Which tower south of spawn?  I have built so many.  [edit] Ohhh, the one out near Ryan's base.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2012, 05:40:04 AM
Okay. I have an okay idea of how ip addresses work. However, last time I messed I accidentally banned Greensteam from the forums.

Lanky, yes, you crashed the server. You crashed it hard. ...twice. What did you do‽ It looks like it ran out of memory. That's the third and fourth time that's ever happened. It seems to have booted again up just fine. Hopefully that's the end of it.

Late February is great for me. It'll give me more time to work on stuff. Our late nights seem to line up with your afternoons. If that works for Greensteam, I can forgo a good night's sleep here and there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2012, 16:15:02 PM
Never mind. Lanky broke it good. Working with customer support right now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 02, 2012, 18:57:52 PM
Fixed!

The map was corrupted. The customer support guy told me it's just a thing that happens sometimes. When I downloaded it and ran it, it worked find. It just won't go on multiplayer.

I ran a couple programs to try and fix it, but nothing worked. Luckily I had that couple day old save. I'm going to make a better habit of that.

Lanky, we lost anything from and after that night we played together. I did go back and redo most the work we had done, and I also fixed the tower. So actually, I think it's close to where we left off the other night. I don't know how much work you put in yesterday/today before it crashed. Hopefully not enough to be too disheartening.

aaand now it's 2am and I'm going to sleep.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 03, 2012, 18:55:39 PM
Thank God you saved it recently.  I would be ever so disheartened if our world just up and died.  Although, it would live on in my memory.

You previously banned greensteam (accidentally) from the forums?  Is that why he hasn't been posting?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on February 03, 2012, 21:19:55 PM
No no, I just haven't been posting much.

Not sure about the Neather adventure, I'm currently a bit tired with minecraft so we'll see.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 04, 2012, 02:32:54 AM
Four men, clad in armor, laden with arrows, and brandishing the finest diamond swords step through the portal and into the nether.

What dangers await them there, in a place where even the landscape can be a mortal danger? How will they fare against swarms of grotesque zombie pigmen, phantasmal ghasts, or the rumored beings of living flame? Will our adventurers return victorious, replete with treasure, or limp home as broken men?

In a story that can only be written through your actions, the 2012 Lankyland Nether Adventure!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 07, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
My cousins (13 and 15) have had a rough couple of years and have actually been split up. In my attempt to do my part to help them interact over long distances, I bought them each a copy of Minecraft.

I also invited them to our server. No one has ever done anything I'd consider inappropriate, but I'm just asking to be a little extra conscious if you ever see them on.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 07, 2012, 16:01:45 PM
Fair enough.

IP blocking can be fun. What would be a good idea is to get an idea of what everyone's IP address are. Some folks will have dynamic IPs, others will have static. As long as you don't ban the range that any of the dynamic users are in then you should be fine.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 07, 2012, 16:55:05 PM
Like I said. I'm not actually worried. Just giving you a heads up that they're younger and I have to answer to their dad.

Yeah, I've messed up that IP range thing before, that's why I checked.

Hey, has anyone ever lit a slime on fire? It's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 08, 2012, 09:55:59 AM
I managed to crash the server last night and I have no idea how. I had logged in and everything was running really slowly. Like I could see through the world and it was really laggy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2012, 10:24:32 AM
Huh. You logged on like an hour after me. It was running fine for me. It looks like a similar error as last time. If it is, luckily I have it backed up to Sunday. I did a fair amount of work on Monday, but it wouldn't be a huge loss.

It looks like it's running now. I won't be home for a while to really test it. The little netbook they gave me at work doesn't have a video card. Let me know if you can't log in. I'll load up the backed up map when I get home if I have to.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 08, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
I'm also at work so no rush on that.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2012, 15:08:10 PM
Everything loaded up fine.

Have yo ever installed mods or anything? You might want to try a new install. Also a fresh install of Java helped me.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 08, 2012, 16:00:48 PM
Everything loaded up fine.

Have yo ever installed mods or anything? You might want to try a new install. Also a fresh install of Java helped me.
No mods and I'm stuck on the OS X version of Java...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 08, 2012, 16:17:05 PM
Hmm. Maybe I backed up yesterday, not Sunday and maybe that screwed up the game while you were playing. I've been getting int he habit of doing back ups after big sessions, and you logged on right after I left. That might be all it was.

Also, I just found a village! It's at about -2000,2000, southwest of spawn. I was worried they weren't generating.

Also, also, do apples grow on trees now? One dropped on my head. I swear to god.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 09, 2012, 21:06:57 PM
Finally, a village!  But we'll still never find dungeons in this world, which means we'll never reach the Ender from this world.

Apples?  I suppose so.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 10, 2012, 04:12:22 AM
I backed up again last night.

Any thoughts on breaking up this massive thread into a subsection? I mean, leave this main general thread, but going forward break it up into topics. A temple thread, an road thread, a server back up thread, a server issue thread, etc... I'm perfectly fine with the way it is now, just floating the idea.

There are programs to locate strongholds and there are programs to ungenerate chunks. With your permission, I could locate where the strongholds were supposed to be, provided they don't have significant structures, ungenerate those chunks, and allow them to generate with strongholds.

I would then have to excuse myself from the search for them, but they would be there.

Also, there's a small chance that strongholds can still generate. They generate between something like 500-1000 meters from spawn. There were and I think still are many ungenerated chunks well within 1000 meters just northeast of spawn.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 10, 2012, 09:01:37 AM
Make it so!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 10, 2012, 22:42:29 PM
Seems a bit unfair for you not to have any joy of adventure seeking the new strongholds.  Perhaps breaking up the Minecraft thread into subsections would be a good idea.  In fact, I think it would be.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 15, 2012, 03:07:49 AM
My cousin and I played for a while last night.

He did quite a number on Spawn while he was playing alone. He accidentally dug through the floor at one point and got stuck in the gap between the floor and the ceiling for the next level down. He knew how to dig, but not how to place blocks. His method for getting out was not pretty. I fixed the major stuff I found, but I'll have to go back and finish cleaning that up.

He's set up home in a tree just southwest of spawn. If you're at spawn you'll see it. I'm pretty sure the concept is an homage to Pianoman's tree. It actually serves as a pretty nice counterbalance. I think a ring of giant trees around spawn could be really cool.

I've been doing my best to teach him to be self reliant instead of just raiding spawn every time he needs something. I mean, anyone is welcome to what's at spawn, but it'll run out eventually. He now has an aerial chicken farm, and he just started a wheat farm too.

I'll bring him around to see the sights after he gets a little less pickax happy.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 16, 2012, 06:42:54 AM
Lanky crashed the game again last night and I got around 70 calls from a 13 year old asking me to restart the server.

Ass.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 16, 2012, 17:04:06 PM
 :facepalm:
That's pretty funny.  How is Lanky managing to crash the server so often?  Some kind of lag?

I was just listening to [noembed]the Minecraft song (by Bobby Yarsulik)[/noembed] on Youtube and it took me back to the very beginning.  Everything I came across in the game was new; we would have to stay indoors overnight to keep away from the monsters; I used to actually commute between my home and my worksite, which were a fair distance apart; the sight of iron excited me; I explored natural caves rather than digging mines.  I used to have a thing for beach houses.  I made heaps of them when I first started playing.

I'm not surprised he dug his way through spawn ;)  I don't mind spawn points being raided as long as their supplies are replenished by the raiders.  It's good that you're addicting your cousin to the game, though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 16, 2012, 17:20:27 PM
:facepalm:
That's pretty funny.  How is Lanky managing to crash the server so often?  Some kind of lag?
I even reinstalled Minecraft...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 17, 2012, 03:31:18 AM
Okay. New theory, since blaming it on Lanky didn't work. There has to be a chunk error over where Lanky is playing. When I pull the map this weekend, I'll see if I can fix up around that area too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 17, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
I'm not surprised he dug his way through spawn ;)  I don't mind spawn points being raided as long as their supplies are replenished by the raiders.  It's good that you're addicting your cousin to the game, though.

Well, it was good until the phone calls all night when I'm trying to have dinner with my girlfriend that I never see. Haha. I will placate him this weekend to make up for it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 17, 2012, 12:36:17 PM
I will set up a ticket system. Server goes down, lodge ticket. Phone calls to be ignored.

Ticket systems make people think that someone cares. I have a ticket system for lankyland, people think I care about them :-p
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 17, 2012, 14:17:39 PM
I walked all over the area Lanky was in and couldn't recreate it. I tried two things (How scientific. Way to track variables, asshole.):

I deleted Lanky's character file (Lanky mentioned his items sometimes change between the times he logs in.).

The banned ips ended up in the banned players text file (These glitches started the same time I did that.), so I moved them to the banned ips file.

If this doesn't fix it, I'll copy out the tower, reload the chunk, and see if that does it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 17, 2012, 14:28:33 PM
To muddy the waters even more. I went back on and walked around the tower where part of it had glitched out before. There was a visible performance lag when I crossed the line between chunks. Right on that line, there were leaves that were not decaying. I went up and chopped them away. The lag stopped. My crazy theory would be that something strange happened to the leaf entities and it was screwing up the whole chunk, but that might be a stretch.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 17, 2012, 18:33:24 PM
Maybe we angered the nature gods and you placated them by removing the offending foliage.

That seems about as good an explanation as any right now.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 18, 2012, 01:11:45 AM
Now Lanky says he can't interact with the world. I'm not sure what that means or even begin to guess why.

Is the glitching/lagging out gone? Or it it so laggy you can't do anything? Will it let you walk around, but interacting with bricks does nothing? Is it just the blocks right where you started?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 18, 2012, 08:16:11 AM
Sounds like a lag or permission issue.  Either he's banned from altering the world or he's so lagged that his alterations time out before the server implements them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 18, 2012, 09:38:25 AM
Yeah, I want to know if he mines it away and it pops back or if it won't mine at all. Is it still laggy? It's hard to diagnose without more information.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 18, 2012, 13:50:15 PM
It would disappear but then re-appear instantly. I moved further away and it has stopped happening.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 20, 2012, 05:08:38 AM
I talked to Lanky. It sounds like it's finally working on his end. My guess was it was spawn point protection or just early chunk loading lag. Thanks for your patience. Sorry about all of that.

Either way, Lanky holds the award for the strangest server issue, the award for crashing the server the most often, and the award for crashing the server the hardest.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 20, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
Either way, Lanky holds the award for the strangest server issue, the award for crashing the server the most often, and the award for crashing the server the hardest.
WIN!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 24, 2012, 09:17:47 AM
My cousin has made a specific request that Pianoman, Lanky, and my roommate log on tomorrow night (Saturday afternoon there). Greensteam, he doesn't know who you are, but I'm sure he'd request you log on too if he knew.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on February 24, 2012, 15:09:15 PM
I might be busy Saturday, and honestly still in the "don't feel like minecraft" phase.  So assume I won't be there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 24, 2012, 16:05:00 PM
It's be Friday night for you. Also, frowny face.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on February 24, 2012, 21:18:24 PM
Minecraft huuraay!! I just love to build things.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on February 26, 2012, 21:03:41 PM
So far your cousin has proven to be a bit of an idiot, especially with inviting people that ended up burning down his treehouse.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 27, 2012, 06:54:01 AM
Everything you'd expect from a 13 year old and then some.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 03, 2012, 01:31:43 AM
Here's the little island settlement we made while on the search for a mushroom island.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on March 03, 2012, 15:14:54 PM
How do you get screenshots like that?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 03, 2012, 16:13:11 PM
F1 hides the HUD and F2 takes a screenshot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 03, 2012, 23:02:13 PM
You and your cobblestone boxes… I love the circular building and the little pathways and the well and all else!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 04, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
Those were just utility buildings while we built the lighthouse.

We finally took off in boats again. I let my cousin take the lead. He found a mushroom island in about 2 minutes. We've been camped out two islands over for days.

I grabbed two mushroom cows and the special mushroom dirt and I started an artificial mushroom island next to our little outpost. I'm going to keep making check points like that to make sure we get them back to spawn.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 04, 2012, 22:16:07 PM
So you're bringing mycelium back to take over the world?  Rad.  Seems like you and your cousin are having a good time.

I thought you might enjoy this design.  I love it.
[noembed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gJ_sKnPl50[/noembed]
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 05, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
Nope. This is just to make my mushroom farm.

Finding the rarest biome in the game, enchanting a special tool to harvest the material, and leading mushroom cows all the way back seemed easier than figuring out a good torch layout.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 05, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
Finding the rarest biome in the game, enchanting a special tool to harvest the material, and leading mushroom cows all the way back seemed easier than figuring out a good torch layout.
o_0 :P  Of course.  More fun, at least.

I found jungle.  Damn, those ocelots are fast!  I was frustrated with my efforts on the Nether base, so I decided I needed a new perspective.  I was inspired to explore the Nether and I soon found a blaze spawner.  Unfortunately, I hadn't planned on staying alive… and a blaze subsequently helped me to keep to my plan.

After respawning in the overworld, I struck out northeast?  Past my tree and to the left from the spawn dome.  I took nothing with me and built it all up as I went along.  I was looking for a place to plant some seeds I'd harvested when I broke out of a pine forest and there, across the ice, was jungle.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 05, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
Jungle! That was on my list. Can you grab a few saplings for me?
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 05, 2012, 13:21:27 PM
Jungle! That was on my list. Can you grab a few saplings for me?
I, erm, *cough*, drowned.  It was 1am and I forgot that I still need oxygen underwater.  I can probably find it again.  When I do, I'll bring back saplings.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 05, 2012, 15:47:38 PM
You know how wooden planks burn, but wooden slabs don't? Have you ever wondered if wooden stairs burn? I didn't.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 05, 2012, 18:02:56 PM
Well, no, I was unaware that wooden slabs don't burn.  I see you decided to scorch your little island.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on March 05, 2012, 19:01:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=efHCdKb5UWc#t=56s

55 Seconds in. Embedding removes playing it at the copied time.  :(
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 06, 2012, 03:13:15 AM
I just wanted to light the lighthouse.

Oh, god, what have I done?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 06, 2012, 10:43:07 AM
You know how wooden planks burn, but wooden slabs don't? Have you ever wondered if wooden stairs burn? I didn't.
I tried to use wooden slabs as fuel in my furnace.  They didn't burn :(  And you have to use a pick to tear apart slabs, regardless of what they're made of.  It's so illogical!

I just wanted to light the lighthouse.

Oh, god, what have I done?
I think you can now take the crown of Lava Tower King from me.  I never built anything that big and then poured lava all over it.

Jungle! That was on my list. Can you grab a few saplings for me?
Done!  I didn't realise, at first, that I was carrying jungle saplings.  I use the Painterly texture pack and I'm always tweaking my textures.  However, I can tell you that was already trying to grow these without any success.  Maybe they need to be in jungle surroundings?

By the way, I planted these near the birch trees underneath spawn.  I got confused about where you wanted the jungle sapling section.  The spawn base you're building is mind-bogglingly endless.  Especially the chasm that falls to bedrock (which I can't even see from the tree level).

P.S. You seem to have a chest for everything except... zombie flesh?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 07, 2012, 14:24:53 PM
Ouch!

I  was building some stairs and fell to my death. I was up to level 30 and now I dropped to 6. Wow. That stings.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 07, 2012, 23:46:31 PM
You fellers are obviously hardier than me.  Both you and Lanky have complained about losing high levels but I… I don't live much past 4.  Are you making an effort to attain high levels for enchanting purposes?  I really need to get into it.  It sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 08, 2012, 01:57:22 AM
Yeah. Enchanting has reallygiven me incentive to stay alive a lot longer. I like it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 11, 2012, 15:29:35 PM
Notch recently stated in a discussion with Chris Hecker (creator of Spy Party) that he regrets ever adding half blocks to Minecraft.  What do you think?

Quote from: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/07/notch-talks-minecraft-development-regrets-and-piracy.aspx
Notch regrets adding half-blocks because all it did was double the amount of verticality in the game and undermined the overall cube aesthetic. He also regrets not beginning work on multiplayer earlier so the process could have been smoother

I don't use half blocks a lot but I would definitely miss them if they disappeared.  I use them for a nice design aesthetic.  There is a mod that allows you to split blocks into smaller pieces (8 mini-cubes per normal cube).  I thought that mod would allow for some excellent designs.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 11, 2012, 16:54:52 PM
I agree. Multiplayer is the heart of the game. It's too bad it's still so buggy.

I get where's he's coming from on half blocks. I personally like them, but I agree that it sort of changes the base of the game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 13, 2012, 01:56:17 AM
Someone printed their Minecraft town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWlbqEhx9xs&feature=related
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 13, 2012, 05:02:38 AM
There's a site that will make those for you. I thought you posted it here.

The one on that site weren't anywhere near that big and there only pictures. That thing is amazing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 23, 2012, 05:03:38 AM
There's a big 1.2 bug fix that came out today. I'm going to go ahead and update the server to 1.2.4.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on March 23, 2012, 16:04:11 PM
woo
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 23, 2012, 18:31:35 PM
Ha! I backed up and forgot to update. I'll get it tomorrow. Don't want to kick Lanky off.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 23, 2012, 20:36:33 PM
On my current Minecraft agenda are:
— signing off on my own design for the 5k point I staked out (east of spawn)
— creating an adventure for you guys
— finishing the story and pictures for the adventure that Superman created for greensteam and myself.

Not to mention the completion of the temple… I'm going to have to pull some serious time fetching sand again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 24, 2012, 05:54:41 AM
Ongoing projects:
Road
Spawn
Temple mountain destruction
Sand delivery to temple
Amusement Park Phase II
Nether Road to 5k
Miscellaneous Nether roads (Throw a request in the nether thread and I'll get to it eventually.)
Village 1
Village 2
Villager distribution
Spawn area tree houses
Lighthouse Island
Bring back mushroom cows

Planned projects:
North 5K Point (I think I want north)
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on March 25, 2012, 18:14:12 PM
I'm building up an arseload of supplies for everyone to use if anyone is out west of the Temple...
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 25, 2012, 20:14:07 PM
We are all doing things.  This is a most awesome game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 26, 2012, 18:09:34 PM
My cousin and I have gone even further south (and I think east). He brought me some hand drawings of some buildings he wants to make. I guess there's something innately more fun about starting something new. Hopefully building this far away will help teach him a little more about what it takes to gather the supplies for large projects. I might hold off on extending the nether road out to there.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on March 26, 2012, 21:19:17 PM
My cousin and I have gone even further south (and I think east). He brought me some hand drawings of some buildings he wants to make. I guess there's something innately more fun about starting something new. Hopefully building this far away will help teach him a little more about what it takes to gather the supplies for large projects. I might hold off on extending the nether road out to there.
Yes, yes and yes.  Your cousin is now sketching drawings for his Minecraft ideas.  Yes!

Yes, there is just something special about starting a new project.  It has the potential to be fantastic.  Sometimes we get it right.

Yes, it's best for your cousin to fend for himself (at least a little bit.  I dunno, the youngens might not be interested in fending for themselves.)  I let Lanky do his own hard work.  I didn't want to rob him of the pleasure doing new Minecraft things for himself.  E.g. I could've brought him seed for his new farm but instead showed him how to get seed for himself.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 28, 2012, 06:06:26 AM
Someone put together a cool Minecraft production tree.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on March 29, 2012, 16:10:32 PM
We're currently digging a giant pit that will serve as the foundation for whatever it is this kid wants to build. It turns out that we're on wolf island and the pit getting getting flooded with them. Yes, of course I hit one and just barely made it out of the pit alive.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 24, 2012, 04:14:30 AM
Holy crap. There are a lot of people playing now. Usually when I play it's just me. Yesterday when I logged on, I ran into three different people while playing. Awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 24, 2012, 23:22:30 PM
The mine I'm currently working out of is also situated in a wolf biome.  I love it.

While I was sick I met Vaati.  Likeable.  I also run into lanky and bx83 a bunch when playing.  Not literally, though.  I'm seven kilometres from them.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on April 25, 2012, 03:48:53 AM
Vaati has built a mob grinder near spawn that would give enough gunpowder to take down the Temple mountain in a few days. It's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 26, 2012, 23:37:16 PM
I saw it when I passed spawn on the way back to my mine from Casa De Lanky.  It looks like the same design used by the kids we banned.  Have you seen the tree?  Who's building that?  It looks amazing.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 09, 2012, 04:32:30 AM
I saw it when I passed spawn on the way back to my mine from Casa De Lanky.  It looks like the same design used by the kids we banned.

I just saw on the map what you were talking about. That thing is disgusting. Why do those idiots have to build that ugly shit right on top of spawn?

He does have a really kick ass underground one right next to that. That's what I was talking about, not that big ugly thing.

Someday, when they're more wrapped up in other things, I'm tearing down all of that ugly cobblestone crap.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 12, 2012, 20:48:23 PM
Someday, when they're more wrapped up in other things, I'm tearing down all of that ugly cobblestone crap.
Thank bleeping crap.  I hate it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 02, 2012, 09:26:17 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 04, 2012, 03:05:45 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on June 04, 2012, 13:57:47 PM
Remember that one time we tried to use Gchat to talk while playing Minecraft and we couldn't figure out the settings? The same thing happened today... turns out my headset was muted. Gchat is a go for Minecraft communication.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on June 06, 2012, 08:34:46 AM
Gchat worked fine for me... but my Minecraft suffered horribly :(  I'll give it another go, though.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 30, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
On my current Minecraft agenda are:
— signing off on my own design for the 5k point I staked out (east of spawn)
— creating an adventure for you guys
— finishing the story and pictures for the adventure that Superman created for greensteam and myself.

Not to mention the completion of the temple… I'm going to have to pull some serious time fetching sand again.
I have yet to complete any of these things.

Also, I just set off without any tools, blocks—anything—save for one loaf of bread.  Hooray!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on August 30, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
Ongoing projects:
Road - Still working on it. Lots of work down heading east and west.
Spawn - Tons of work done. Further from done than other. The more I do, the more I think to add.
Temple mountain destruction - Oh crap. I forgot. I want to build a mod grinder into Spawn to collect enough sulfur. Oh crap. Another thing for Spawn.
Sand delivery to temple - The system is (was) set up. Need to repair the rail and just do the hard work now.
Amusement Park Phase II - Started then promptly abandoned for the time being.
Nether Road to 5k - Roughed in. Not sure how much exactly, but needs a lot of work. You should be able to get to all 8 5k points though.
Miscellaneous Nether roads (Throw a request in the nether thread and I'll get to it eventually.) - Still willing. I think I have everything I wanted done.
Village 1 - Meh. Done with it.
Village 2 - I'll add more to it when I think of more ideas. Right now there's just some major landscaping I'm in the middle of.
Villager distribution - Success! Villagers are at Spawn and ready to be delivered anywhere the rails run.
Spawn area tree houses - Nothing done sine I made this list.
Lighthouse Island - Ugh. Still a lava mess as far as I know.
Bring back mushroom cows - Success!

Planned projects:
North 5K Point (I think I want north) - Not even close to starting.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on August 30, 2012, 22:29:08 PM
Sand delivery system!  I completely forgot where we found the biggest desert on the map.  I'll go there instead.

You have done a lot.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on September 13, 2012, 08:16:18 AM
Conan O'Brien plays Minecraft.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on September 15, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
Hah. Glaucoma World.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 19, 2013, 07:45:10 AM
I bit the bullet and tried Minecraft on this computer yesterday. It didn't run well. It was jerky even set to the shortest viewing distance. I'll try reducing some more settings, but I might not be able to play for a while—at least, until I get a gaming computer.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 19, 2013, 07:53:12 AM
I still want to do some major fixing when I get my new computer up and going too. You're not missing out on any activity right now.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on January 24, 2013, 19:03:03 PM
Dear Minecraft,

I miss you. I just thought I'd let you know. I think it's a good idea to communicate when you're in a long-term relationship.

— pianoman
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 18, 2013, 09:29:07 AM
Four years.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 18, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
Haha. At first I thought I was looking at a new game, and then a realised it was Notch replying to the questions. How delightful!

And how long have we been playing? 2? 3 years?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 22, 2013, 04:56:12 AM
According to my email, I got an account in Dec of '09.

We've been running our shared map since January of '11.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on May 22, 2013, 14:42:48 PM
I think I started a year after you, around October 2010, then. Wow. I've never played any game this much. There's something awesome about playing a fresh game with other people. I think I should get off my butt and buy the parts for my new computer. Then you won't be able to resist the lure of Minecraft, because you'll be so jealous that I'm having all the fun.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on May 23, 2013, 02:58:37 AM
I do spend fairly little time in front of my computer. Little has changed except for you not having a computer. Your hypothesis seems valid.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 26, 2013, 07:36:39 AM
Minecraft 1.7.2 update. Lots of new things added.

https://mojang.com/2013/10/minecraft-1-7-the-update-that-changed-the-world/
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2013, 08:57:40 AM
This one looks awesome.

I'll probably wait on it for a while. It looks like it might have been a little rushed. I'm wary of bugs.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: greensteam on October 26, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
Lots of flowers, and all sorts of things added and bug fixes.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on October 26, 2013, 10:48:42 AM
The colored glass, sand, and clay is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 02, 2013, 09:13:05 AM
It looks amazing. When will you be updating the server super?

Also, hi!
Sorry for my long absence, I've had a load of other things occupying my time.
I find the minecraft bug creeping on me once again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 02, 2013, 15:33:24 PM
I wondered where'd you'd gone..
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 03, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
Hey hey, good to see you.

Umm, my "good" computer is taking a break. I can probably do a back up on here. I'll try to get it this weekend. Have they patched the release yet? I like to let them get a patch or two out of the way, and they usually have a couple right away.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on November 04, 2013, 20:57:14 PM
I updated too so can't play now..
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 05, 2013, 02:40:47 AM
I don't think it works that way anymore. I'm pretty sure you can set it to any version you want. I think what you just described happened far too often.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 05, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
It's nice that they coded that in.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on November 05, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
I was toying around with the new launcher thingy, it does appear to do as you have described. Yay.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 05, 2013, 18:20:44 PM
Who broke my castle door?!

I'm going to rebuild the mechanisms, it's too fragile in it's current form.
Using the lever twice too quickly, or even a badly times lag spike can break it.

And yeah, you can launch essentially any version from the launcher, that's fantastic!

Also, there are always going to be bugs.
I want the new stuff! =D
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 05, 2013, 18:57:14 PM
Haha. True, but I understand Superman's reluctance. Some bugs have crashed our server or deleted part of our map.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 05, 2013, 20:47:59 PM
Yeah that's fair enough. There's so much that's been built and half-built....it would be crushing to loose it.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 06, 2013, 03:53:36 AM
I'm just backing up at work. Hopefully no one will notice.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 06, 2013, 07:03:29 AM
So far i have found tall ferns and orcids. woo!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 06, 2013, 07:17:00 AM
And poppies and lilac and Super Dense Forest with very thick trees. And now i'm late for work.
Ack.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 06, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
Minecraft is work. It's the best work. Can we get paid to Minecraft?

I'm just backing up at work. Hopefully no one will notice.
I once downloaded a 3GB game at work because I'd run out of bandwidth at home.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on November 06, 2013, 13:56:37 PM
Minecraft is work. It's the best work. Can we get paid to Minecraft?

I'm just backing up at work. Hopefully no one will notice.
I once downloaded a 3GB game at work because I'd run out of bandwidth at home.
Only 3 gig? I think in one day I've pulled down over 25 gig of stuff through a work connection. It was all vaguely work related, mostly ISOs for various Operating Systems that I was interested in trying out.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on November 06, 2013, 20:20:09 PM
It was all vaguely work related
Haha, that sounds like rationalisation. I'm sure your work was interested in testing some obscure strain of Linux. :P
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on November 06, 2013, 21:08:13 PM
Well yeah, we did do some Linux testing of various things
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 20, 2013, 16:09:43 PM
Whenever anyone jumps on next, my castle is undergoing some massive additions. Also i will be fixing the front door soon. Building a more reliable, less easily broken door.

Also i need tnt. shit loads of tnt.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on November 21, 2013, 07:50:11 AM
Hmm, join the club. I still have that stupid mountain in the middle of the temple to blow up.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on November 29, 2013, 07:53:13 AM
Expansion of my fort is continuing at a good pace.

Super, are you able to do a new map capture of the world? the current one is from last year.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on December 03, 2013, 04:04:16 AM
Yeah. There was something broken with our map and it screws up the process. As soon as I get a computer up and going, I'll try to fix it and render it again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on January 28, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
I have a computer again.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: lanky on January 30, 2014, 13:37:52 PM
I have a computer again.
Yay! Now go and buy Starbound too.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Superman on February 01, 2014, 04:12:25 AM
Wait, there are even more video games?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on April 12, 2014, 14:52:06 PM
Hey, back again. Gonna be hitting up the server again after a brief hiatus. Lots of stuff going on at home getting in the way.

Anyway, yay!

Also, when will the server be updated?
And did we ever get that new map capture?
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 13, 2014, 02:46:51 AM
Yay, welcome back!

My hiatus… has been a year now? However, now that my fiancee has recently finished up her casual work, we are both unemployed and I figure it's a good time to spend up big and build a computer that can run Minecraft.

For the time being, I've been playing FTL.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on April 15, 2014, 14:16:57 PM
You gotta come back, it's kinda lonely, wandering the deserted roads and seeing the deserted buildings and farms left to ruin...
It's kinda like a post-apocalyptic land, long after everyone has died and nature has reclaimed most of it.

Well no more!
My castle is going swimmingly, and it will soon make the jump to citadel. Very exciting!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 16, 2014, 21:26:35 PM
Citadel? Fancy. That sounds very grand. Post some pictures?

You gotta come back, it's kinda lonely, wandering the deserted roads and seeing the deserted buildings and farms left to ruin...
It's kinda like a post-apocalyptic land, long after everyone has died and nature has reclaimed most of it.
Haha, I'm sorry… I didn't realise I'd been gone for so long. It's almost scary to think that I started playing Minecraft about 4 years ago. It would be extremely cool if nature actually started to reclaim our constructions. I miss my temple. It was my grandest vision and I feel guilty that I never completed it. I spent a LOT of time harvesting sand for that thing and it's not even one fifth complete.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on April 18, 2014, 08:16:53 AM
yes yes you must come back!
I find when i have a huge project, other people being on the server drives me on to complete it.

Often my ideas outstrip what's feasible for one person to complete quickly. But you gotta dream big!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 18, 2014, 09:28:02 AM
The temple was a far bigger dream than anything I'd previously done, and I found that I would wander off to do other smaller constructions, like when I worked on the Nether base.

My first adventure was the most fun one. I set off, before Minecraft had compasses or beds, with some building supplies, and seeded a bunch of watch towers. It was a lot more hair-raising when the prospect of death and getting lost meant you might never find them again. I actually was approaching death at one point, and I was lost in the snow. I had headed off in the vague direction I thought was home, but I wasn't recognising any of the landmarks. I tell you, when I saw Superman's snow tower loom up at me in the distance, it was probably one of the finest Minecraft experiences I've ever had.

It was perhaps the most relief I've felt in a game.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on April 18, 2014, 10:54:37 AM
I've had a few such moments.

Minecraft is full of little moments like that.

In fact just recently, i went through the nether trying to find the right portal to get to Spawn Temple from my base.
I clearly went the totally opposite direction, because when i emerged from the portal i was in an unlit cave. Did a little exploring, found diamond, coal, gold, iron and redstone. Found my way to the surface. It turned out the cave was under a vast ocean. juuuuust made it to the surface without dying from drowning. There was a mountain in view so i swam to it. I was fairly sure i wouldn't survive the swim back down to the cave.

Made it to what i thought was a mountain island, turned out to be an outcropping overlooking valleys of stone.

Stupidly i had neither compass nor a map, and night was rapidly approaching, so i dug a hole in the side of the mountain to wait out the night.

As morning rose it became apparent that there were a dozen creepers outside. Yay.

I dealt with them and thought i would trudge in-land to see if anything was familiar. I wandered until night was falling but all i found was empty fields and a savanna. Harvested some of the new acacia trees to make torches and such, since it seemed i would be here a while. At least, here until i could get the materials to make a compass and find my way home.

In my little hole in the side of the mountain, waiting out the night, i decided to make a boat and try crossing the ocean to find home. I was fairly sure i knew which way was home based on the position of the sun.
So the next morning i set off in my new boat, with a supply of boats just in case.

That is possibly the largest ocean i have ever seen in minecraft. I traveled for a good 15 minutes in one direction without ever seeing land. I gave up on that idea and turned back. Eventually i hit land again near the mountain.

I figured heading in-land was gong to be my only hope but i decided to try a different direction.

20 minutes, many nights, and dozens of monsters killed later i saw some cobblestone: Civilization!
Best feeling ever!
Turned out to be a far out-lying road with no rails yet. followed it a while, found my way home.
Phew!
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: Poopyhead pianoman ♫ on April 18, 2014, 16:51:33 PM
That's a great story. Minecraft captures that spirit of adventure without, you know, actually having to step outside and cut yourself. It's also immensely satisfying to find your way around without the use of a compass. I've seen some large ocean expanses in our little world (felt like forever when I was building a road across it) but nothing to rival 15 minutes in one direction. Where did you end up? Like, which direction from spawn was the cobblestone? I think I was mainly building in the north.
Title: Re: Minecraft
Post by: gumstitch on April 18, 2014, 22:48:25 PM
I think from memory i hit the northernmost road, then found the cross section road to the west and followed that to the central western line.
When we get the map updated, if ever, we'll be able to see where i went. Where's super?